Jamie Roberts Posted April 12, 2011 Share #81 Posted April 12, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am using the A850 and have 4 R lenses, 19mm, 28mm, 35-70 f4,0, 180 f2.8 Apo, converted to alpha mounts via Leitax. Works well. Along the way, I picked up a CZ 16-35 and a 70-400mm G lens. I have the DMR for 4 years before deciding to make the switch. N.S. Ng How do you like the colour and detail of the Sony with the Leica lenses? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stuny Posted April 12, 2011 Share #82 Posted April 12, 2011 If your DMR is not running firmware V 1.3 you can download it from the Leica site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H Posted April 13, 2011 Share #83 Posted April 13, 2011 Thanks. I guess I should have said that! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns_ng Posted April 13, 2011 Share #84 Posted April 13, 2011 How do you like the colour and detail of the Sony with the Leica lenses? The colours and details are slightly different from the DMR. The colors are slightly less vibrant, but tonally very natural. The details are there, but require more sharpening. In my tests, at 20" x 30" enlargement, the 24mpx sensor holds details better than the DMR. The DR is better with the Sony as well. I used the A850 + R lenses extensively in my Namibia trip and I am very pleased with the results. Mind you the ff sensor will reveal weaknesses in the edge and corner performances of some Leica lenses that I did not see with the DMR. N.S. Ng 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted April 15, 2011 Share #85 Posted April 15, 2011 Hi John I think you will find that the DMR is only compatible with the original format SD cards. Is your camera running on firmware version 1.3? This allows use of 4Gb SD cards but not SDHC etc.., Hope this helps. Julian Hi Julian, Yes, thanks I had an old 4GB SD card that worked OK, but fell apart, so I've been searching. This one seemed to be SD only, but they may be kidding with the description. Good job I only bought the one to try! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 15, 2011 Share #86 Posted April 15, 2011 Buy SD cards only from reliable sources. There are a lot of counterfeit cards on the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H Posted April 15, 2011 Share #87 Posted April 15, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Julian,Yes, thanks I had an old 4GB SD card that worked OK, but fell apart, so I've been searching. This one seemed to be SD only, but they may be kidding with the description. Good job I only bought the one to try! John Hi John I reckon you have an SDHC card there. I have always had good luck with Sandisk Ultras 2Gb from 7dayshop which are about £6 each.. I have 10, each will store 99 DMR dngs; plenty for me! I also like spreading the risk over many cards..., just in case it fails or I loose one. Julian Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jarski Posted April 18, 2011 Share #88 Posted April 18, 2011 SD-card and battery issue seem biggest drawbacks of going DMR these days. now that R-system is discontinued for some time, Leica could give DMR firmware source codes to open source community for support latest and future storage card types ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 18, 2011 Share #89 Posted April 18, 2011 The battery is little drawback since Michael Bass designs in the US, and a German firm that Leica has found both will rebuild batteries. Cards though? I couldn't guess how much longer reguar SD cards will be available 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted April 21, 2011 Share #90 Posted April 21, 2011 Which entry level R lenses would be recommended on a budget .... should i be looking at a 50mm F2 sum for example or some of the small aforementioned zooms. Heres one 50mm http://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=46_44&products_id=3198 Thanks....Brian Brian. I like the 50 Summicron very much. Wonderful bokeh when shot wide open. The aforemention zooms are great to have for street work, but they are heavy. The 24 Elmarit 2,8 is a very special lens, but it takes real discipline to master the framing. It's very sharp & the colors it renders with the DMR are just amazing. It's a difficult lens to use well, but I love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted April 21, 2011 Share #91 Posted April 21, 2011 Just bought a brand new DMR battery from SH-Photo in Germany, from eBay. Expensive, but what the heck! Julian, I think you are right, I'll stick with my 2GB SD cards and be happy! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vickko Posted April 25, 2011 Share #92 Posted April 25, 2011 After a four month experiment, I just sold my DMR / R9 kit. In the end, it was too heavy to carry around. I could do most of what the DMR could do, with my M9 and I had a lot of overlap between the M and R lenses. For pure SLR work, I'll stay with my R6.2. ...Vick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted April 25, 2011 Share #93 Posted April 25, 2011 After a four month experiment, I just sold my DMR / R9 kit.The build quality, handling and technical features of the R9 system are so exquisite and superb. But next to an M9, the results just pale in comparison. It's such a pity that Leica dropped this system instead of providing us with a DMR upgraded to the level of the M9 or beyond. I would even have accepted the weight (and then some) under these circumstances. What a loss. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar B Posted April 26, 2011 Share #94 Posted April 26, 2011 Ben I was at Fforbes a couple of weeks ago to buy an R9/DMR but decided against it ... really based on its size and weight ... i found that when holding it using the strap that the edge of the body tended to dig into my hand to still i did not leave empty handed and bought the much smaller X1. Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyp Posted April 26, 2011 Share #95 Posted April 26, 2011 The build quality, handling and technical features of the R9 system are so exquisite and superb. But next to an M9, the results just pale in comparison. It's such a pity that Leica dropped this system instead of providing us with a DMR upgraded to the level of the M9 or beyond. I would even have accepted the weight (and then some) under these circumstances. What a loss. Results pale in comparison? Wow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 26, 2011 Share #96 Posted April 26, 2011 The Canons have a nasty smudgy AA filter on them that the Nikons don't have. Strange....Sean Reid states that the D700 has a stronger AA filter than the Canon 5D (and 5Dii, I believe). I have no vested interest in either system, nor am I making any judgment about compatibility with R lenses; just found this observation curious. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted April 27, 2011 Share #97 Posted April 27, 2011 Results pale in comparison? Wow Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryee3 Posted June 9, 2011 Share #98 Posted June 9, 2011 These seem to be good 4GB SD (not SDHC) cards at a reasonable price. I managed to do an extensive Ebay search last night to see availability of such cards. The other ones I mentioned earlier seem to be SDHC after asking the sellers.★ NEW SD 4GB Card Memory Secure 4 G B Lifetime Warranty - eBay (item 220589424892 end time Apr-09-11 04:15:48 PDT) Did you ever purchase the SD cards and did they work properly on your DMR? Thanks Richard:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryee3 Posted June 9, 2011 Share #99 Posted June 9, 2011 Doug (and everyone)--a few points of clarification... First I want to start out by saying that selling my DMR was a financial necessity for me, but it's the only piece of gear I personally regret selling. Why? Because the files are so damn good, especially the colour at low ISOs. For focusing, the Nikon D3 I have is practically as good a VF as the DMR--yes, it's true, and I had the luxury of comparing them over time. The D3 VF has the coverage (and it's full frame) and it's very bright for an AF camera, only very slightly less contrasty and bright as the DMR, which is saying something. I was impressed, especially coming from Canon full frame (1ds2) where focusing manually was next to impossible, regardless of the screen in the camera. So focusing manually, with the D3 at least, isn't much of an issue. It's a high ISO dream camera, and ergonomically it's nicer in the hands than the DMR (and lighter I think). From a focus-confirmation perspective, both the D700 and D3 have tracking AF mechanisms for moving subjects that actually work. They will follow a target exceptionally well, and it's quite astonishing to see this work in the VF. The D3 has 51 focus points spread very well across the FOV. I haven't seen if the 3d focus tracking works with MF lenses (as confirmation only, of course), but I'd like to. Of course, I don't shoot the same things Doug does, but I don't focus and recompose, and I understand the benefits of manual focus. If there's an AF camera capable of excellent MF costing less than a new car, then it's the D3 / D700. Anyway, the problem for me is not focusing or the speed or the view of a D3. It's the colour. I just can't reproduce the colour of the DMR with the D3, no matter how hard I try. It may be that I haven't put Leica glass on the D3 (I'm sure that contributes) but the files themselves are just not the same in terms of colour. As for sharpness, if anything, the D3 has more AA than full frame Canons, so Andy and I disagree on that (the D700 is essentially the same as the D3 in this regard). However, they are, like Canon, perfectly capable of sharpness with the right processing. But it's that DMR colour palette that I miss most, to tell the truth. Short of an S2 or a Phase back, I'm not sure where to get it these days.... Oh--and not being able to use my 19mm Elmarit on the Nikon is a real drag too... BTW--any suggestions are welcome. I wish Leica would hurry up with its "R solution"... I recently purchased a Canon 1d Mark IV as my R solution. I am very glad I did! It's not full frame but 1.3x similar to the DMR. I get 10 fps, a nice bright image with a variety of focusing screens, and in manual mode, I can set fix my speed and aperture ie wide open and the exposure settings can vary by the auto ISO setting. High ISO capabilities make it quite functional for low light situations. Again, I am very pleased with my purchase. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telyt2003 Posted July 1, 2011 Share #100 Posted July 1, 2011 Did you ever purchase the [4 GB] SD cards and did they work properly on your DMR?Thanks Richard Hi Richard, just in case that you are still interested in 4 GB SD (not SDHC) cards, here is my experience with such cards: - I used 4 GB SD (not SDHC) cards of the brand 'Formel 1' with the M8, for 2 years before the M8's firmware was upgraded to SDHC. - I did not check these 4 GB SD cards in the DMR, - With the M8, these cards worked flawless (even better than my Panasonic and SanDisk 2 GB SD cards - perhaps because they were a bit slower?). - Problems with these 4 GB SD cards occassionally arose only AFTER the M8's firmware had been updated to SDHC (so I stopped using them in the M8, as all other SD cards). - Technically, the 4 GB SD (not SDHC) cards appear to be two 2 GB SD cards integrated into one housing. Best regards, Telyt2003 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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