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Has anyone heard anything more about the Leica R9's successor?

It would be really nice to see a DSLR from Leica. The M9 and S2

can't do everything. For example, wildlife photography.

 

I'm really looking forward to a modern AF Leica DSLR solution. It

would be great even if it used an off the shelf APS-C sensor like the

one from the X1.

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Has anyone heard anything more about the Leica R9's successor?

Other than that there won’t be one, you mean? The R system as we knew it was pronounced dead in March 2009 and the acknowledgement that the previously (as of photokina 2008) promised R10 wouldn’t happen followed shortly thereafter.

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I'm hoping for a future DSLR from Leica. Perhaps one that isnt compatible with the R-mount or 4/3rds mount.

 

Although "hope will die last", I think there will be no R10 or any other consumer-DSLR from Leica any more. After the discontinuing of the R-series they told about an "adequate solution" so that R-lenses could be continued to be used with a Leica body. Maybe a prototype will be shown on the Photokina 2010. Maybe!

It could be a full format camera with very high resolution electronic viewfinder and of course - no mirror. You may imaging how it may look like when you take a look at the Samsung NX10 or Panasonic G or GF only with full format so you get no crop factor from the sensor. But that "solution" should be not only compatible with the old R-Lenses; they sure need a new line of lenses for that new system to be attractive for new buyers. That is the point. A little company like Leica has at the moment 3 lines built up from the ground here in Germany: S2, M9 and X1. Capacities are difficult to grow at the moment, and such a new line bears the problem that it will maybe neither attract the mostly very conservative R-users nor the new users which compare that (sure high priced) system with the other non-mirror-camera systems on the market which are able to adapt R-lenses already!

 

So we have to wait until the Photokina 2010.

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Panasonic has shown the way with auto brightening of electronic viewfinders. This way the camera can use a large variety of lenses with or w/o adapters. One can use the new Panny 20/1.7 as well as the 30 y/o Summicron-C 40/2 on the G1. Now just replace the 4/3 by a larger sensor, add some microlenses to fit M lenses better, use an excellent EVF like the latest Oly's and you get the next Leica or PanaLeica body. Won't never be as good as the M3 or the Leicaflex i presume but it will replace them both, the future is here IMHO.

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There are a few world-class wildlife photographers such as Doug Herr on this forum who might disagree with you ... :rolleyes:

 

Pete.

 

Until there is a long lens available for the S system I can't evaluate it's suitability for wildlife photos, and the M system at present can't use any modern long lenses so it's probably not the best solution. A full-frame camera at least as responsive as the R8 with image quality at least as good as the DMR and using a lens at least as good as the 280mm f/4 APO would get my attention.

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Could somebody tell me, why the M9 would not be suitable for wildlife photography?

Especially for long lenses the lcd-screen is very useful in my opinion.

Jan

 

There are not long lenses in the M9 line... all the (fine) telephoto shots one can see here have been taken with old stuff (Visoflex and Telyts 200 to 560), which Leica lovers like a lot, but is a system that was abandoned about 25 years ago...

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I would like to see a Visoflex IV that allows use of R lenses at infinity on M9.2/M9.R (?) bodies. I know there is not enough space to do this with a mechanical mirror for viewing, but some electro-optic combination might be possible. The diaphragm would have to actuated and the cam read for the exposure meter. This is my dream.

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Until there is a long lens available for the S system I can't evaluate it's suitability for wildlife photos, and the M system at present can't use any modern long lenses so it's probably not the best solution. A full-frame camera at least as responsive as the R8 with image quality at least as good as the DMR and using a lens at least as good as the 280mm f/4 APO would get my attention.
I have my doubts there, Doug. I have used a 645 system ( Mamiya) for wildlife in Africa, and I found the 500, even more so with the 2x extender, a bit too much of a handful for serious wildlife work, let alone birds. I doubt the S2 would be much different in that respect.
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i don't understand why the s2 is over £20k body only and the m9 is only £5k

 

the m9 is actually pretty good value for money considering it's built like a tank etc

Are you the 6th Marx Brother? :o:rolleyes:

 

Pete.

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