hektor Posted April 18, 2021 Share #15101 Posted April 18, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) They were relatively common in Australia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rona!d Posted April 18, 2021 Share #15102 Posted April 18, 2021 vor einer Stunde schrieb wlaidlaw: 1950 Vauxhall Wyvern L Series Caleche Cabriolet? Wilson Seems so. All I could have said from the very first view without any further investigations that the hub caps look like the ones from the Opel Kapitän 48 (which is the German Vauxhall). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15103 Posted April 19, 2021 22 hours ago, wlaidlaw said: 1950 Vauxhall Wyvern L Series Caleche Cabriolet? Wilson Yes, it's a Caleche and, for the benefit of those who haven't heard of it, the Caleche was built in Australia by General Motors using Vauxhall mechanical components and an Australian built (by Holden) convertible body. After the caleche, there was the Vauxhall Vagabond, but that's another story..... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All yours. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! All yours. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4184451'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15104 Posted April 19, 2021 Were any of the Caleche Cabriolets made with the Velox 2.3L six cylinder engine, with its wheel smoking 54 BHP? Would have been a bit more fun to drive than the rather feeble 12HP four, with only 33 (gross) BHP. Below is your next puzzle car - the usual questions plus if you are feeling very knowledgeable, the original owner when new. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4184517'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15105 Posted April 19, 2021 Quite certain it's a Maserati Grand Prix car, just not sure which model. Fairly sure about the pre-war vintage, what with the hood straps which were no longer used after the war when they resumed racing with updated pre-war cars for a few years, before the 250F was introduced. If I absolutely had to state a year & model,......I'd say 1937 or '38 8CTF JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15106 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: Were any of the Caleche Cabriolets made with the Velox 2.3L six cylinder engine, with its wheel smoking 54 BHP? Would have been a bit more fun to drive than the rather feeble 12HP four, with only 33 (gross) BHP. I'm no expert on Vauxhalls, but I was able to find a half page advertisement, by General Motors - Holden's Ltd, in The Bulletin of 22 February 1950, which listed both 4 and 6 cylinder variants. The 18hp 6 was described as "Australia's lowest priced '6' tourer" and the 12hp 4 was referred to as "Australia's finest performing 4", a claim I find rather hard to believe. Edited April 19, 2021 by Jim J correcting typo 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15107 Posted April 19, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pre-War Maserati but not an 8. Year correct at 1938. I took this photo on the grid of the historic GP at Monaco. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15108 Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: Pre-War Maserati but not an 8. Year correct at 1938. I took this photo on the grid of the historic GP at Monaco. Wilson In that case, a 6CM. JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15109 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) John, Correct a 1938 6CM. Although in theory not as quick as their 4 cylinder successors, the 4CL and the space framed chassis 4CLT (T for Tubo = Tube), the 6CM has a more robust engine and gearbox and seem to be considerably more reliable. The results is that although there are a number of 6CM's racing today, the 4CL and 4CLT seem to be a rare sight, even though more of them were made. The 1.5L straight 6 engines of the 6CM, which were producing 160-175 BHP in period, now make more than 250. The yellow dot by the fuel filler cap indicates this car is running on methanol. Now for extra brownie points, any guesses as to the original well known owner and driver. Your turn. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 19, 2021 by wlaidlaw 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4184646'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15110 Posted April 19, 2021 Was it the director, Rossellini? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15111 Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, stuny said: Was it the director, Rossellini? Someone more aristocratic. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15112 Posted April 19, 2021 Well I’m assuming it’s not ex Count Trossi....(ex Laidlaw?) 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 19, 2021 Share #15113 Posted April 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, NigelG said: Well I’m assuming it’s not ex Count Trossi....(ex Laidlaw?) 🤔 Well who'd have guessed. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted April 20, 2021 Share #15114 Posted April 20, 2021 Thank you, Wilson. Right off the bat allow me to say the riddle car in this post is a one-off - not a prototype, not a precursor to a larger run, not a 'dream car, only one was ever made.- period. It is American conceived & produced, and when you learn the year it was built it is sure to be a surprise given its relatively sophisticated mechanical layout, and much more modern appearance compared to 'normal' U.S. auto industry output. One of the more puzzling aspect is that no specific manufacturer seems to have ordered it or funded its development as a project for potential future production, rather, it appears it all was the pet project of one little-known but well-connected individual who operated on the fringes of the Detroit car industry. As an addittional hint, it is the engine which is of an unprecedented configuration and gives the car its name, & is key to this odd little creation's layout and character. Not trying to 'blow up' this thread, nor attempting to get even for some of the impossibly obscure and almost totally-unknown-outside-their-country cars that have been featured here lately, but hoping you'll take the time and interest to rise to the challenge..............feel free to Google and use any & all other available 'research' material you can think of. I saw this car at the Pebble Beach Concours a few years back and would have eventually come across it on my own, but I found out about it from Jay Leno early in the morning, who was doing his walk-about in the opposite direction when I ran across him in the historic Mercedes display area and he mentioned this 'weird little car I never even heard of' that I just had to see and shoot. As Leno and the vast majority of other aficionados, I too hadn't heard about this car either, until I stood there face to face with it wondering just what the Hell I was looking at. Good luck, JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4185601'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted April 21, 2021 Share #15115 Posted April 21, 2021 Good one, this mid 1930s vehicle was in the Brooks Stevens Collection since the early 1960s. Original color was gunmetal gray before the designer donated it to Brooks Stevens who repainted it. Who will uncover the name and interesting technical speXs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted April 21, 2021 Share #15116 Posted April 21, 2021 When I think of Stevens I think of the Excalibur, the Caddy Valkyrie (Yikes!), the Avanti and the Oscar Meyer weinermobile. I'll go out on a limb and guess the puzzle car does not run on hotdogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted April 21, 2021 Share #15117 Posted April 21, 2021 vor 53 Minuten schrieb stuny: When I think of Stevens I think of the Excalibur, the Caddy Valkyrie (Yikes!), the Avanti and the Oscar Meyer weinermobile. I'll go out on a limb and guess the puzzle car does not run on hotdogs. The puzzle car lived about 4 decades in the building complex the Weinermobile hotdogs were made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted April 21, 2021 Share #15118 Posted April 21, 2021 Ronald obviously is on to the full name and the identity of this car, but kindly chose not to reveal it fully so others might take a crack at it. I'll wait a day or so before revealing all the details and story behind this thing if anyone else is sufficiently interested in trying to figure out which car this is before turning it over to Ronald. You're correct Stuart, no hot dogs are harmed when this car's engine is fired up.................and just to be clear, Brooks Stevens had no role in the creation or design of the car, he merely admired the idea and the lines and frequently complimented it all, to the point that the builder donated it to the Brooks Stevens Museum in 1961. An additional clue in the form of a photo of the engine compartment, even though the unique configuration is not visible what with all the shrouding. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4185892'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 21, 2021 Share #15119 Posted April 21, 2021 The engine looks like one of the Lycoming six cylinder engines, fitted to the US built versions of the Burney Streamline, later also built by Crossley both in the UK and USA. They originally had a Beverley-Barnes straight eight, which behind the rear wheels, must have resulted in interesting handling. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 21, 2021 Share #15120 Posted April 21, 2021 18 hours ago, John Z. Goriup said: ...hoping you'll take the time and interest to rise to the challenge..............feel free to Google and use any & all other available 'research' material you can think of... I thought I knew what it was but, having checked the source-book I thought it was in discovered I didn't.....and it wasn't!... Intrigued by the thing I resorted to google (using many hints in the thread) and had a good laugh all along the way of Sherlocking out the 'right' answer therefore, as I suspect others here might also enjoy the thrill of the chase, will also keep quiet. Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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