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Perhaps I'm not the only one who's clued onto this, but to me a dedicated ISO button on the m9 hints at a greatly expanded and ISO range. I feel that an ISO button on the m8 is useless with few real options (160, 320, 640 arguably).

 

Are we going to see a range somewhere in the field of current level SLRs?

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OK so we have a few confirmations as to the obvious M9 features, but nobody has mentioned or pondered on the intriguing distance scale that appears in the frame at around 1.04 in the YouTube video.

 

I looked at this when you posted it but nothing came to me, figured it was probably just a graphic the marketing dept. threw in there....

 

jquimby-albums-m9-dimensions-picture1456-scale-video.jpg

 

this is probably completely unrelated and just a freak coincidence... but

 

i am looking for a lens over 50mm for impromptu portraits. i am finding it hard to pick between the 75 lux and the current cron. searching through the old posts i came across Guy Mancuso's 75mm review. Then I saw this photo and looking at the lux I thought that distance scale looks familiar...

 

65496d1197577994-leica-75mm-trio-comparision-lux-cron-l9996874.jpg

 

just a coincidence? Leica screwing around with us? or is there a modern 75 lux aspherical coming our way? You decide....

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|With all the hype in this forum...........woooow

 

Leica should deliver the NEW products very quick in about 3-4 weeks time frame to the dealers. then it can be maybe a turn around for the company for their own best and sucess.

 

My 2 cents.

 

Theo

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luigi bertolotti

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no wet dreams anymore

 

M9 in english sounds like M-nein, and we all know what this means:

no new M(9)

 

9/9/9, nein/nein/nein

 

the new camera is the CLD (CL Digital):

- micro 4/3

- 12mp

- m-mount

- iso 200-3200

- 2.2" lcd

- no uv/ir filters needed

- price range €1400-€1800 (body)

 

 

cheers

sam

 

I partially agree (and made this hipotesis somwhere hereby) : but I think that "CLD"

could be ONE of the itemS announced (ref. "new users...") and it will be NOT a 4/3 but a "compact" 18x27 sensor camera, M mount.

(I add with pride that more than 2 years ago I speculated, in this forum, that if Leica would have done a DSLR, it could have been "something more than FF" ;))

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Have you noticed that the left side of the screen on the back seems to be closer to the left end of the camera? There are fingers there but no camera. Or so it seems.

 

Is the screen larger? The distance between the top of the screen and the bottom of the viewfinder seems more than on an M8 too.

 

Or . . . ?

 

And did you notice the serial number?

 

We'll see.

Yes, the issue of LCD apparent "repositioning" has been discussed in another M9 thread... space for new battery is one of the ideas about. I think the s/n isn't so significant... being engraved only on the shoe, is a cheap component from the warhouse (the old times of 8 digits - prototype s/n are gone... :))

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Venkman, gravastar,

 

As you know I can see the video on YouTube and Vimeo but I think Leica could just have also offered here this "premiere".

 

Ah, ok, gotcha. Well, I think there is only a fraction of Leica users worldwide under the roof of this forum, so I understand why they didn't make it exclusive.

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Perhaps I'm not the only one who's clued onto this, but to me a dedicated ISO button on the m9 hints at a greatly expanded and ISO range. I feel that an ISO button on the m8 is useless with few real options (160, 320, 640 arguably).

 

Are we going to see a range somewhere in the field of current level SLRs?

 

1/3 steps an "even" numbers (100, 200...) would be fine.

 

 

Sascha

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Why not?

 

It makes it possible to have the event simultaniously in NYC and London/Berlin while keeping it within business hours

 

In the U.S. the "S" does not stand for "Summer". "EST" means Eastern Standard Time. The correct usage would be "EDT" for Eastern Daylight Time (Daylight shortened for Daylight Savings Time).

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Let`s resume : 1. It is higher, but smaller and the viewfinder seems to be higher, too.

2. It is thinner!

3. Leica said it`s difficult to implement a FF-sensor into a Leica M.

4. It is more difficult to implement a FF-sensor into a thinner Leica M.

5. It will be a revolution...

 

Conclusion: The Leica M9 will be a digital rangefinder camera with a 27mm x 27mm CCD- sensor!!!:eek:

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The size of a sensor has absolutely nothing to do with the thickness of the body. That is related to the register distance of the lenses (and in the case of the M8 the thickness of the motherboard of the sensor and the LCD)

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Waooooooooooo thank you to Leica for this Video, the boring threads are now becoming a brilliant CSI investigation. I just love it. :D

 

Phase 1: we now almost all accept an M9 is about to appear NOW

Phase 2: we have almost seen an M9 although it is still more like a spirit than a camera

Phase 3: we all beleive in ghosts so people are rushing to preorder an M9

Phase 4: I am dying to be on 9-9-9 at 9.00

 

Santa expectation is looking lousy compared to this :-)

 

Do you realize that Leica as made us all in charge of marketing?

 

Create rumour, create product expectation, create pros and cons, create presales... I am close to thinking that they were about to ask Mark Norton to create the M9 and Guy Mancuso to test it :-)

 

M9 is probably what we all dreamt about and likely to be what only a few will be able to pay for, or at least justify its cost.

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The camera is going to be bigger.

 

Let’s be accurate. Only the body seen at (A) 0:0:53-54 and 00:00:56-58 is different to the M8/M8.2. These are the only frames that show a camera we know to be different to what we have.

 

The shot in between, at (B) 00:00:55, is perhaps a red herring - or another prototype. It has a shutter speed dial without the S setting but it also has an early M8 hot shoe. The inner contact point is elliptical in the earlier shot and round, like the current version, in the second shot.

 

If the shots seen at (A) are indeed the camera to be released on the 9th, then there is apparently a larger gap between the LCD border and the bottom of the eyepiece, and the top of the eyepiece and the top of the top plate.

 

If, as some suggest, the eyepiece is actually bigger, then the top plate of the new camera may be even taller than it looks on Vimeo. However, the eyepiece does not have its rim.

 

The apparent distance between the engraving “Made in Germany” and the hot shoe also suggest a higher “roof”.

 

The top plate clearly takes a “step up” at the point where the frame counter used to be, 00:00:57. I suggest it is unlikely that Leica has managed to lower the top plate at this point, rather it has added a significant few millimeters on the “roof” of the camera.

 

Ergonomically, the index finger of the left hand would rest in the cut out, in the same position as it would on the M8 series.

 

To my eye, the body is also deeper. It is not possible to measure this because the shot is partly distorted, being wide, close up, and because the body is at an angle. But trying to “see it” while holding my M8, I come to a different conclusion than others here. There seems to be more metal in front of the shutter speed indicator.

 

Thirdly, we have not seen the front of the “camera to be released on the 9th”. The M8’s lens mount is deeper than that of the film Ms. The new camera could have a yet-deeper lens mount.

 

As to how wide the camera is, we have little reason to suspect it has changed. Leica has learned that traditionalists will just about tolerate extra height. After all, they add hand grips and motor drives. But a wider camera, a la M5, has so far been a "no, no".

 

What we don’t know is as important as what we do.

 

 

 

Mark

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I partially agree (and made this hipotesis somwhere hereby) : but I think that "CLD"

could be ONE of the itemS announced (ref. "new users...") and it will be NOT a 4/3 but a "compact" 18x27 sensor camera, M mount.

(I add with pride that more than 2 years ago I speculated, in this forum, that if Leica would have done a DSLR, it could have been "something more than FF" ;))

 

but what could be the difference between a compact m-mount 18x27 sensor camera and the m8, except for the size of the body?

less features? m8 already has the perfect minimum

less image quality? i cannot imagine with the same size sensor, we are almost 4 years later, so i would sooner say better IQ (no uv/ir filters and better high iso performance)

 

if a CLD would be the only new camera body leica introduces, it should be different (in sensor size) from the m8, or they kill m8 sales

when two camera's will be introduced, a smaller and 'cheaper' (€1700) 18x27 CLD can exist very well next to an expensive (€5500) full frame m9

 

 

cheers

sam

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