rosuna Posted November 26, 2008 Share #21 Posted November 26, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, brass can be chromed black. Like it is on this SBLOO viewer [ATTACH]114680[/ATTACH] Then, brass made lenses in black color are possible. Brass lenses do weigh a lot more but, why not an edition of black brass made lenses? If the brass has advantages, and the final price is the same, why they use aluminium anodized for black lenses? is it a question of weigh alone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Hi rosuna, Take a look here Lenses: Silver Vs Balck finish. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rosuna Posted November 26, 2008 Share #22 Posted November 26, 2008 They use higher grade glass in the chrome lenses. Why is it? Different glasses? Do it altere the optical formula? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 26, 2008 Share #23 Posted November 26, 2008 Why is it? Different glasses? Do it altere the optical formula? I think James might be winding us up. I personally think the Leica fairy prefers the traditional chrome finish and touches only those with her magic wand. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 26, 2008 Share #24 Posted November 26, 2008 True though:Black Cron 28 Chrome Cron 28 Chris Only the Summicron 28. All others are the same. MEISTER CAMERA Berlin: Leica M Objektive Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 26, 2008 Share #25 Posted November 26, 2008 Why is it? Different glasses? Do it altere the optical formula? Yes, it is well known that the guys at Leica love chrome lenses and select the best glass for them, they also take much more care assembling them. The black lenses are made with the 2nd grade glass and sent off to Taiwan to be assembled by Panasonic on the digicam production lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 26, 2008 Share #26 Posted November 26, 2008 I think James might be winding us up. I personally think the Leica fairy prefers the traditional chrome finish and touches only those with her magic wand. Wilson Wilson, as if I would! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piero Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share #27 Posted November 26, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Could just be the difference between any two or three examples. Yours just happened to be one chrome, two black. Yes of course, infact the 28 'Cron Asph I had been using for the past month performes beautifully. But is interesting to note that both black 35 had a more loose feeling overall, compared to the chrome. Not to mention sharpness and contrast. I don't care much about having a chrome lens on a black body, or maybe I do. But looking at the results... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piero Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share #28 Posted November 26, 2008 Mind you... Not that there is anything wrong with being chrome.... I kind of like it, to be honest. just... the contrast between black M8 and silver 35 'Cron seems a bit, how can I say... well... I don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardT Posted November 27, 2008 Share #29 Posted November 27, 2008 I prefer the feel and the smoothness of the chrome lenses, especially those made in the late LTM and early M period. To me they are more precise in their focus accuracy on the M8. I bought a new chrome 35 1.4 Summilux Asph last year that back focused so badly I had to return it. I have a 1954 chrome 85mm f1.5 Summarex that is dead on perfect on the M8. To me it's the most beautifully constructed lens that Leica ever made. I don't think there is any difference between the current chrome and black but do feel the fast, f1.4 and faster lenses are a problem for Leica to get right. Len Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 27, 2008 Share #30 Posted November 27, 2008 ....I have a 1954 chrome 85mm f1.5 Summarex that is dead on perfect on the M8. To me it's the most beautifully constructed lens that Leica ever made. Len WOW !!! Happy to hear from another what me too am intimately convinced of... (maybe 1954 was a special year, mine is of the same vintage... ) : my strong feel, seriously, is "I'll discuss everything BUT the Summarex !" ... when I decided which 3 M8 pics to choose when Bill Parson "Anniversary Book" project did start, I admit that one of my first thoughts was "Anyhow, one of mine MUST be a Summarex-taken pic !". It's OOT... but, to me the only comparable lens in term of visual/tactile fascination is the Super Angulon f 4... but in terms of performances... well not comparable to THE REX. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noah_addis Posted November 27, 2008 Share #31 Posted November 27, 2008 Can't speak of chrome lenses, but I have two black paint lenses, a 90 AA and a 35 'cron asph. Both seem to have smoother focus and aperture rings than my normal black lenses. The focus action is particularly nice. They are heavier though. I bought the BP 90 AA brand new, with factory 6-bit coding, for $200 LESS than the price the same store was charging for the standard black version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 27, 2008 Share #32 Posted November 27, 2008 The placebo effect may "affect" the silver lenses. Wilson is right regarding the 35lux ASPH (but there are many good black anodized copies too), anyway, even if I much prefer the silver lenses, I never had any bad experience black anodized ones. To see differences between lensees i guess we should do accurate tests (something like Sean use to do), with tripod and many stuffs like that. Unless you found a lemon, I guess it's hard to determine good/bad copies of the same lens just OOTB. The tolerances are so tight that I can't see how a new lens could be a bad performer, if not for a bad quality control at Leica factory. These are just my 2cents... btw my new silver 28cron ASPH performs much better than the black 28cron ASPH I used to have! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 27, 2008 Share #33 Posted November 27, 2008 P.S. ... I'm just one another of those silver addicted men: matter of fact my car is silver painted too, 'cause I believed that maybe in Germany they use to make better things when they're silver! :D Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/69695-lenses-silver-vs-balck-finish/?do=findComment&comment=729782'>More sharing options...
piero Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share #34 Posted November 27, 2008 ...To see differences between lensees i guess we should do accurate tests (something like Sean use to do), with tripod and many stuffs like that. ... These are just my 2cents... ... precisely what it has been done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piero Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share #35 Posted November 27, 2008 by the way Maurizio, where did you get that leather strap? I'd like to get one too, whit that extra leather to defend the body from the metal of the ring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 27, 2008 Share #36 Posted November 27, 2008 precisely what it has been done. In this case, I don't think the silver/brass should have somehow interfered, probably the black one you did check must have been some kind of a "lemon". The leather strap is the Luigi's deluxe strap. Luigi Crescenzi @ Leicatime in Rome... a great artisan. And he's a gentleman too! Piero, you could easily find him at Leicatime Luigi Crescenzi : leica cameras leica compur mp elmar 250 reporter leicavit! ciao Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 27, 2008 Share #37 Posted November 27, 2008 Piero, anyway, have you got some of those shots to post here to see the differences between the lenses you tested? I remember a thread like this one started just before last summer, but no one did post any picture. It would be nice and interesting to see how much a "bad" sample of a certain lens could show up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piero Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share #38 Posted November 27, 2008 when the issues will be solved, with pleasure. Luigi Crescenzi I have met about 15 years ago, when he had his Leicatime shop behind Piazza Bologna in Rome. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 27, 2008 Share #39 Posted November 27, 2008 Now I hope one thing - that the Summilux 21 will not come in silver - The thing is like a magnet already, and in silver probably irresitable. I will sue for custody of the camera gear...:D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caparobertsan Posted November 28, 2008 Share #40 Posted November 28, 2008 Yes, brass can be chromed black. Like it is on this SBLOO viewer [ATTACH]114680[/ATTACH] Hi is that a rubber foot you can buy from home center? I mean thumbs up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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