IBIS, lack of, Feedback

[o2mpx]

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Has the absence of ibis been an obstacle?

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[pippy]

No.

[fenykepesz]

nop, not at all - though in theory it would make sense with 60MP.

[dscdsc]

IBIS is a nice to have but not required. been shooting without it for a few decades now.

[Kiwimac]

It’s useful but not essential. 
 

It would be an impressive feat of engineering to cram it into an M body I think. 
 

That is the one restriction that Leica have that most other companies don’t: Leica cannot change the M basic form. Compare Hasselblad and the X2D: It’s a fabulous camera   to use because they could design it from scratch without trying to keep it within the accepted dimensions of a historic camera.

The available solution - to mount M glass on an SL - is available for those who want it. 

Edited yesterday at 12:17 AM by Kiwimac

[jakontil]

Nope and never miss one on M.. i had the X2D with a great ibis..the only thing i miss over it was the ability to shoot handheld at 2s..

[SrMi]

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Yes and no.

The M without IBIS works fine and is an excellent photographic tool, much better than some other cameras with IBIS.

However, adding IBIS would allow longer exposures in some instances, which would be beneficial in low light. When I plan to shoot Sensorio at night, I cannot use the M11.

 

[Fgcm]

Deal breaker for me

 

[hillavoider]

of course it has, with 60mp its a constant compromise, its not that some people have magical hands and technique, its just facts and physics 

same issue with fuji 100mp RF 

[jhonzatkl]

Yes, for me it's a downside. I have to use much faster shutter speeds to ensure I get sharp images.

[JNK100]

9 hours ago, o2mpx said:

Has the absence of ibis been an obstacle?

No

[IMAGEPOWER]

No

[RF’sDelight]

No.

And also 24 MP were sufficient. 😎

[lct]

Obstacle to slow shutter speeds here. I don't use my M11 for speeds slower than 1/(2f)s. I kept my M240 for that. Not a huge issue but the M11 is the first M since the 50s to suffer from that. It has excuses but i won't buy the M12 or a possible EVF-M if Leica doesn't fix this issue with IBIS or otherwise. YMMV.

[Carlos cruz]

 

10 hours ago, Fgcm said:

Deal breaker for me

 

7 hours ago, jhonzatkl said:

Yes, for me it's a downside. I have to use much faster shutter speeds to ensure I get sharp images.

Image stabilisation when you have good  enough high iso, at the price of bigger body with higher energy consumption  doesn’t make any sense to me. Just keep 1/2 focal length as minimum shutter speed and compensate with film speed.

Main reason for me to stick with leica is that it gives you access to essential controls to make a picture, no extra programs, countless buttons, maze-like menus. You may call me a luddite radical but I believe there’s room for some more cuts in D line

[jdlaing]

No. 

[DadDadDaddyo]

Nope, has never bothered me. 

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, Carlos cruz said:

 

Image stabilisation when you have good  enough high iso, at the price of bigger body with higher energy consumption  doesn’t make any sense to me. Just keep 1/2 focal length as minimum shutter speed and compensate with film speed.

The minimum handholding shutter speed depends on the photographer. If I want sharpness at the pixel level, I use 1/2f for 24MP and 1/4f for 60MP.

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[PeterKelly]

Yes

At 76 years old my hands are not as steady as they once were. I compensate by using high shutter speeds which obviously limits low light shooting.

If IBIS could be incorporated in future M bodies without much change in size and layout I would be a happy camper 

[Jeff S]

Magnification issue, screen or print, not MP issue per se.