lct Posted March 25 Share #1061 Posted March 25 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just now, SrMi said: You asked, I answered ... again 😄. Sorry i don't remember but never mind 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Hi lct, Take a look here EVF M rumoured. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Smogg Posted March 25 Share #1062 Posted March 25 4 minutes ago, lct said: Not my experience i must say. Haven't we already discussed this subject? You probably have a unique ability to focus. You have CDAF built in. My hat goes off to you. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 25 Share #1063 Posted March 25 Mockery won't help. I can only repeat that focusing is not a problem for me with focus magnification, together with focus peaking if needed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted March 25 Share #1064 Posted March 25 I can only hope that the new EVF-M comes with IBIS. This way we can restore some sanity here in the forums. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted March 25 Share #1065 Posted March 25 35 minutes ago, Kwesi said: I can only hope that the new EVF-M comes with IBIS. This way we can restore some sanity here in the forums. That would be a bad idea. They would not be able to fulfill orders for years to come ;-). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted March 25 Share #1066 Posted March 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, SrMi said: It is great and tilting, but a bit clumsy. It also requires focusing with rangefinder before using it to frame (wide angles only). This is the technique I use with my 24 and 18, but with an optical viewfinder in the hot shoe. I see no reason to use an EVF at all. Very quick to bounce back and forth between the rf and the ovf. And if something happens while I'm using the rf, I just snap the photo without framing and either it works or it doesn't, or I crop it a bit later, but at least I haven't missed the moment. Too much futzing about trying to accurately focus an EVF, esp with wide angles stopped down. The new M11-V will be an interesting test case. Far too dear (pricey) for me - if I truly needed a body with an EVF for my M lenses I'd just pick up a used SL2-S, which could be a lot more flexible with other uses and L lenses as well. Edited March 25 by charlesphoto99 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 25 Share #1067 Posted March 25 Advertisement (gone after registration) So will the M11-V be the ILC of the Q size? I somehow think not, but who knows. Next once announced it will be put up or shut up, I guess. In the next few weeks so Lieca Rumours says, but 3 May is an important date for Leica. Or should I say M(ay)3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted March 25 Share #1068 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, algrove said: Or should I say M(ay)3. Or M(ay)11 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 25 Share #1069 Posted March 25 14 minutes ago, T25UFO said: Or M(ay)11 😃 If I recall correctly 3 May was when the fist M something was introduced many years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee S Posted March 25 Share #1070 Posted March 25 3 hours ago, SrMi said: Again, the DOF is way too large with wide angles to be able to focus precisely. If the depth of field is way too large then surely no need to focus precisely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrichie Posted March 25 Share #1071 Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, Lee S said: If the depth of field is way too large then surely no need to focus precisely? I zone focus my 18mm + 28mm and don't even bother with the OVF [except for the odd quick check], and just use the screen for framing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted March 25 Share #1072 Posted March 25 Arguing about the only way to focus wide and ultra wide angle lenses. Only on a Leica forum. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted March 25 Share #1073 Posted March 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lee S said: If the depth of field is way too large then surely no need to focus precisely? Nope. DoF - as people perceive it - is heavily dependent on the final image size, and how closely people will view it. Most EVFs will be like looking at a 2" x 3" (5cm x 7.5cm) print. From 3-4"/7.5-10 cms away. Does this look focused? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Is it really focused? Is it really, really focused? Edited March 26 by adan 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Is it really focused? Is it really, really focused? ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5777068'>More sharing options...
robb Posted March 25 Share #1074 Posted March 25 Late to the party… does the group think there will be ibis in the m11-v? Or will it be a general copy to M11 but with some of the mechanical viewfinder components replaced with electronics but no ibis? Robb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevejack Posted March 26 Share #1075 Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, adan said: Nope. DoF - as people perceive it - is heavily dependent on the final image size, and how closely people will view it. Most EVFs will be like looking at a 2" x 3" (5cm x 7.5cm) print. Does this look focused? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Is it really focused? Is it really, really focused? No but I don't think it matters. If you're choosing between this shot, and another in-focus shot which doesn't contain a similar gesture and expression it would be this one every time right? There's enough information there to make the photograph successful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 26 Share #1076 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, adan said: [...] DoF - as people perceive it - is heavily dependent on the final image size, and how closely people will view it. [...] Sure and it shows even with UWA lenses. CV 15/4.5 v2 on M11 at f/5.6 below. Full frame looks sharp but crops show blurred parts that are visible with focus magnification. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5777083'>More sharing options...
Tseg Posted March 26 Share #1077 Posted March 26 As long as the AI tells me when my EVF is in focus, I’m good. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted March 26 Share #1078 Posted March 26 4 hours ago, robb said: Late to the party… does the group think there will be ibis in the m11-v? Or will it be a general copy to M11 but with some of the mechanical viewfinder components replaced with electronics but no ibis? Robb Who really knows, but I'm hoping it does. Digital stabilization on the Visoflex 2 is of limited capacity (it jerks around when camera movement is too much for it to handle) and has reduced coverage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevejack Posted March 26 Share #1079 Posted March 26 54 minutes ago, Tseg said: As long as the AI tells me when my EVF is in focus, I’m good. I'm not liking the rumours so far.. namely that the EVF will simply be the existing visoflex quality but integrated into the camera, and a missing ISO dial. There's no benefit to then losing the rangefinder AND the vertical swivel of the existing visoflex, and having to rely on the thumbwheel to change ISO. It's essentially a backwards step from what I have now with the M11 + Visoflex. If they come up with a novel way to confirm focus via the EVF with M lenses without relying on magnifying or focus peaking that would be awesome, but probably not enough to make me a convert. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted March 26 Share #1080 Posted March 26 The problem is that there are many good cameras with EVF on the market. The rangefinder offers a real live view and a unique experience of using the space outside the frame, which is so interesting that I am ready to close my eyes to some shortcomings, such as parallax and the lack of autofocus. As for what the new camera will offer and why I should buy it - I do not yet understand. But I hope that the situation will become clearer. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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