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Yup, the original M4. My favorite of the analog Ms.

I found it such an improvement over the M3 that I passed the M3 on to my son as his first Leica, and now have two original M4s, so one can be with me if the other needs to get service. 

Are we still on the idea of an electronic finder in the M?

Once more, there might be times that'd be handy, but I've been using Leica rangefinders for a long time. I can switch between the M11, M11M, and M4 seamlessly, even reaching for the IIIC and IIIG that got handed down to me, when I feel like it.

The same muscle memory applies.

It's all as natural as driving with a clutch and a stick shift, downshifting to second gear then accelerating out of a curve.

It's as easy as grabbing a full-width F major chord on the guitar with my thumb wrapping around to catch the low F on the E string.

It's as easy and natural as finding the light switch in my darkened bedroom. 

It literally can't be made any easier. 

That's what's enabled by over a half a century of experience with quality, precision tools that feature consistent design. 

Why would I look elsewhere? I'm here to make photographs. The subject and me. The camera disappears. 

A guitarist friend of mine once commented to me that his goal was to get to the point he could play anything as easily as if he was whistling. 

Same applies to making the camera disappear. 

The next generation might look at the tools I used and wonder how I could possibly have gotten my results without Autofocus, without an electronic viewfinder, without Image Stabilization.

I hope, if they happen across this archive someday, that they'll believe me when I say it was no problem, in fact, it was just great, consistently great, a learned level of comfort, sure, but all as natural and easy as breathing. 

I hope some of those future folks will reach back and give it a try.

And see. 

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There was a time when Montblanc, a German company made and sold pens, and pens only. Their brand was recognized as among the best manufacturers of writing instruments.

Today they are a luxury goods company selling stationery, bags, wallets, luggage, watches, headphones, fragrances and possibly other products. 

At least, Leica has stayed somewhat true to their original business.

As for me, I will just buy what I need, and right now I am sticking to a rangefinder camera.

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1 hour ago, rramesh said:

At least, Leica has stayed somewhat true to their original business

Somewhat true . . . if you ignore teddy bears, pens, pencils and a collection of useless trinkets for the 100 year milestone.

I would really like to see something more class leading than parts bin special editions!

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In my opinion, the success or failure of the EVF-M depends entirely on how effectively Leica will be able to emulate a rangefinder or replace the focusing process with something else that is visually simple and fast, and applicable not only to open but also to closed apertures. The huge external screen is a big plus, but I would also like an EVF of the same quality as the SL3, since the external screen is of little use on a sunny day. IBIS is welcome, but its absence is not critical for me.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb T25UFO:

Somewhat true . . . if you ignore teddy bears, pens, pencils and a collection of useless trinkets for the 100 year milestone.

I would really like to see something more class leading than parts bin special editions!

...and watches.

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13 hours ago, Calvin said:

With Leica premium, it could be more like US$4K

Man, some of you are in la la land when it comes to what you think an EVF M will cost. Might as well save yourself the grief now and and just buy something else by Nikon/Sigma/Sony with an EVF to put your lenses on...

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8 hours ago, T25UFO said:

Somewhat true . . . if you ignore teddy bears, pens, pencils and a collection of useless trinkets for the 100 year milestone.

I would really like to see something more class leading than parts bin special editions!

Leica watches have become an essential product for Leica.

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Assuming an EVF-M is to be launched, it would be neither a Q-no-mount 😉 nor an L-mount, but an M-mount camera in all aspects but the RF, i suspect, including the price. Just a guess. Those looking for more affordable adapted cameras might be interested by the Sigma FPL, which works fine with M lenses, or the announced Sigma BF eventually. Kolari mod Sony's work well too. Also Nikon's but i have no experience with them. FWIW.

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7 hours ago, 3D-Kraft.com said:

and watches.

1 hour ago, SrMi said:

Leica watches have become an essential product for Leica.

Yes, I forgot about the watches and they are nice.  I would quite like the Monochrome but it’s almost as expensive as the 75mm Noctilux 😳

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1 hour ago, lct said:

Assuming an EVF-M is to be launched, it would be neither a Q-no-mount 😉 nor an L-mount, but an M-mount camera in all aspects but the RF, i suspect, including the price. Just a guess. Those looking for more affordable adapted cameras might be interested by the Sigma FPL, which works fine with M lenses, or the announced Sigma BF eventually. Kolari mod Sony's work well too. Also Nikon's but i have no experience with them. FWIW.

I struggle to focus M lenses with just a screen so wouldn't buy the Sigma BF / Samsung S9 for that unless zone focussing [which could work well for the street].  Then again, may as well get the Ricoh GR [which is now looking very old and needs a refresh].

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24 minutes ago, jrichie said:

I struggle to focus M lenses with just a screen so wouldn't buy the Sigma BF / Samsung S9 for that unless zone focussing [which could work well for the street].  Then again, may as well get the Ricoh GR [which is now looking very old and needs a refresh].

I have no experience with the Panasonic S9 but the EVF of the Sigma FPL is not bad at all. The Ricoh's EVF feels outdated compared to it. Only con of the Sigma is the electronic shutter although i use it to shoot moving subjects with no significant issues so far. The EVF of the Sigma is handy but ugly though TBH...

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After just over two weeks, 43 pages and 843 posts, we have gone almost a whole day of the earth's rotation without a new post.  Is this a record?  Are we now losing interest in this (currently) fictional camera?

 

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Not sure - but a lot of side topics have been covered, too ...  I for one are interested in a good implementation of an EVF M. Good for me means that most things are taken from the M, except there is some nice and hopefully innovative way of focussing. I have no idea what I mean by that, so don't ask. But Leica: please surprise me in a positive way!

 

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My Leica store confirms that Leica M with EVF and M-mount is coming this summer alongside a new Noctilux-M 35mm f/1,2

It will look like a Q without lens.

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17 minutes ago, nicci78 said:

My Leica store confirms that Leica M with EVF and M-mount is coming this summer alongside a new Noctilux-M 35mm f/1,2

It will look like a Q without lens.

Wow, a 35 Noctilux! I wonder how big the size of the lens is going to be…

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29 minutes ago, nicci78 said:

My Leica store confirms that Leica M with EVF and M-mount is coming this summer alongside a new Noctilux-M 35mm f/1,2

It will look like a Q without lens.

Very exciting, but how can they have permission to tell you this?

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vor einer Stunde schrieb nicci78:

My Leica store confirms that Leica M with EVF and M-mount is coming this summer alongside a new Noctilux-M 35mm f/1,2

That combination would make sense.

vor 50 Minuten schrieb Parolibre:

Wow, a 35 Noctilux! I wonder how big the size of the lens is going to be…

Look at the Voigtländer Nokton 35/1.2 ASPH. Size and weight are pretty ok and RF blockage is no problem with an EVF-M.

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