lct Posted August 23 Share #1981 Posted August 23 Advertisement (gone after registration) 37 minutes ago, evikne said: [...] I hoped that the viewfinder/rangefinder window could also be reused for something clever. Instead, they have apparently chosen the simplest solution and just removed it. [...] Leica did it for the MD, the MDa and the MD-2 already. Keeping the RF window would make little sense for a camera sans RF IMHO. As for the VF window, Leica did keep it for the M1, but for the EVF-M it would sit at the same place as the EVF i guess so i hardly see how it could be a true viewfinder. I have no info about that though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5852698'>More sharing options...
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evikne Posted August 23 Share #1982 Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, lct said: Leica did it for the MD, the MDa and the MD-2 already. Keeping the RF window would make little sense for a camera sans RF IMHO. As for the VF window, Leica did keep it for the M1, but for the EVF-M it would sit at the same place as the EVF i guess so i hardly see how it could be a true viewfinder. I have no info about that though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I know, and I was waiting for it. But they looked ugly. 🤮 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 23 Share #1983 Posted August 23 10 minutes ago, evikne said: I know, and I was waiting for it. But they looked ugly. 🤮 Pure Bauhaus elegance. Form Follows Function. Now, Leica could sell finder window decals for those with delicate stomachs 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted August 23 Share #1984 Posted August 23 Nothing of real significance for weeks and then four hours ago we get post 1966, followed by a series of comments that mostly assume post 1966 is fact. Until I see something tangible, I will assume it’s fiction. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 23 Share #1985 Posted August 23 Discussing fiction is not forbidden is it. Good opportunity to imagine how the built-in EVF could be implemented. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spersky Posted August 23 Share #1986 Posted August 23 1 hour ago, T25UFO said: Nothing of real significance for weeks and then four hours ago we get post 1966, followed by a series of comments that mostly assume post 1966 is fact. Until I see something tangible, I will assume it’s fiction. Its likely not fiction. Now that is out of the way. Should I return my new leica M11-P and wait for the EVF version. I wear glasses and have bad eye sight. Maybe it would be the best for me to nail critical focus. I was actually considering ordering a leica visoflex2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted August 23 Share #1987 Posted August 23 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, spersky said: Its likely not fiction. Now that is out of the way. Should I return my new leica M11-P and wait for the EVF version. I wear glasses and have bad eye sight. Maybe it would be the best for me to nail critical focus. I was actually considering ordering a leica visoflex2. YMMV but if I were in your shoes I would reject the M series altogether for an autofocus camera. Manual focusing by EV is slower than by rangefinder and while it can be quite precise it can also strain the eyes. It's a pretty unpleasant experience to do manually for everything. Any mirrorless (imo) needs AF to be generally usable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 24 Share #1988 Posted August 24 Different experience here. Manual focusing with EVF is easy for me. I mean on M11/Visoflex 2 with auto zoom + focus peaking. YMMV. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intermediatic Posted August 24 Share #1989 Posted August 24 so... i mainly use the visoflex but likely this camera is not for me since i usually shoot looking down with the visoflex screen pointing up .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 24 Share #1990 Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, intermediatic said: so... i mainly use the visoflex but likely this camera is not for me since i usually shoot looking down with the visoflex screen pointing up .... The Visoflex 2 is made for that as well. If it works this way for you, it is made for you too. Famous photographers have been focusing this way for decades with their Rolleiflex or Hasselblad cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted August 24 Share #1991 Posted August 24 1 hour ago, lct said: Different experience here. Manual focusing with EVF is easy for me. I mean on M11/Visoflex 2 with auto zoom + focus peaking. YMMV. Genuinely curious how you achieve that at a comparable speed while also keeping an eye on a dynamic, moving composition at the same time. Auto zoom means you’re not seeing the whole frame. I’ve never been able to toggle back and forth between the two fast enough to come close to what a rangefinder offers. For static subjects it’s great, I get that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 24 Share #1992 Posted August 24 Matter of habit i guess. I've been using M lenses with mirrorless cameras before the M11. Now i never focus at full aperture if i don't need it absolutely. Too slow for me. Always at working aperture when focusing is accurate enough with focus magnification + focus peaking. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nthomas Posted August 24 Share #1993 Posted August 24 This most uplifting feature of this rumor to me is the adobe camera matching profile. How does this really work? Will the original raw have the same SOOC jpgs color? If so, that would be increadible and game changer. Hope they can also implement this feature to the previous M11 varieties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted August 24 Share #1994 Posted August 24 If the rumors are true, I'm surprised that Leica would use the old Maestro III in the new camera. It's barely capable enough for the M11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted August 24 Share #1995 Posted August 24 I really hope that the new FN frame selector will be able to be equipped with a digital crop function (Zoom in/Zoom out) and the zoom will be full screen or only with frames (at the user's choice). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted August 24 Share #1996 Posted August 24 51 minutes ago, Smogg said: If the rumors are true, I'm surprised that Leica would use the old Maestro III in the new camera. It's barely capable enough for the M11. The electronics are likely the same as in M11, hence Maestro III. I assume that Maestro IV's benefit is mainly in AF and continuous shooting, neither of which is relevant for the M11 series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted August 24 Author Share #1997 Posted August 24 If this rumour pans out, they also included the hardware for content credentials but restricted the internal memory to 64gb. It’s a hybrid of the M11/M11-P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted August 24 Share #1998 Posted August 24 100 pages of a rumour. 100 years of Leica. I guess you guys should leave it here and just wait impatiently… 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted August 24 Share #1999 Posted August 24 51 minutes ago, SrMi said: The electronics are likely the same as in M11, hence Maestro III. I assume that Maestro IV's benefit is mainly in AF and continuous shooting, neither of which is relevant for the M11 series. I would like a faster processor that would allow the camera to turn on faster and work properly in continuous shooting mode (M11/M11-P does not work correctly in continuous shooting mode, often continuing the series even after releasing the shutter button). 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted August 24 Share #2000 Posted August 24 45 minutes ago, Olaf_ZG said: 100 pages of a rumour. 100 years of Leica. I guess you guys should leave it here and just wait impatiently… Hey, we are just hanging out and talking. No harm done. 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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