What do you want from the M12-D?

[evikne]

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Even though the M11-D hasn't been launched yet, it's too late to make any wishes, as it's already in production and probably just waiting for a firmware update.

But since we already have an idea of what to expect from the M11-D, what do you want from its future successor, the M12-D?

• Fold-out thumb rest, yes or no?
• How many megapixels?
• What kind of metering (or none at all)?

Anything else?

[AndreasG]

• Brass top cover plus black paint
• 60-100 MPix
• Metering as M10-D
• stable firmware

[dugby]

In a CL film body size.

[FrozenInTime]

<= 36 Mpixels

High dynamic range global electronic shutter

In viewfinder histogram; or at least LEDs for black and white level clipping.

[costa43]

Design wise, a black chrome Leica MA with a digital sensor would be nice. I like black paint too but the mp is a bit too shiny so if that could be reduced a bit then great.  I’d actually like the film advance lever to work the shutter for an even more organic experience. Low megapixel count is preferred, sub 30mp. No evf compatibility. ISO dial on the back. Built in memory, min 128gb. Closer focusing rangefinder would be amazing if physics allows for it. Instant or as close to start up and wake time. 

Edited July 23, 2024 by costa43

[evikne]

I love the idea of no meter at all, although I realize that this is not very realistic. But I was actually a little surprised the other day when I discovered that there is a meter on my M10 and that the arrows in the viewfinder show the exposure. 😅 (Of course, I knew that, but I hadn't looked at it for a long time and had almost forgotten it existed.) I'm sure the subtle sound of such a shutter would be fantastic.

Near instant start-up and wake-up time.

24-36 very good megapixels is all I need, along with the best possible dynamic range.

I also like the M10-D thumb rest and find it both very nice and useful.

ISO dial on the back is great, and in line with the analog models.

It would be great if the camera could be used completely independently of other devices.

Simplicity is the key word!

Edited July 23, 2024 by evikne

[Viv]

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No meter.

No screen.

Fixed 35mm lens.

[MaxGor]

I have got M11 silver.  I wish it was lighter and did not have ISO dial. Can not really think about anything else design related.

[RF’sDelight]

• Silver chrome brass top
• The return of the fake lever, yeah!
• Monochrome sensor on demand
• ISO dial like the M2 film counter (or exposure compensation, not sure)

I would instantly sell all my digital Ms and would live happily ever after.
For color I would use the SL4. 😎

[Kiwimac]

Nespresso machine built in. 

[T25UFO]

A camera that doesn't randomly over expose.  A camera that works as it should.

[evikne]

15 minutes ago, T25UFO said:

A camera that doesn't randomly over expose.  A camera that works as it should.

That's why it shouldn't have a meter. Then you only have yourself to blame. 😉

[kiwidad]

Only two things I would like… a shutter that is as silent as a film M and a built in eyepiece diopter1

 

[kiwidad]

15 hours ago, T25UFO said:

A camera that doesn't randomly over expose.  A camera that works as it should.

And only people who work as they should are allowed to own it lol

[Tomislav Stanich]

Forwarding lever instead of just u stupid thumb rest, 

Internal stabilisation, 

Internal focusling as in the CONTAX AX preserving the gorgeous M lenses as small as they are, 

Touch screen, as with omitting all the buttons as much as possible, but also by increasing the size of the touch screen as much as possible, 

electronic viewfinder with gorgeous RED indications in the screen9LEICA RED Color as in the MP 240. 

[evikne]

1 hour ago, Tomislav Stanich said:

Touch screen, as with omitting all the buttons as much as possible, but also by increasing the size of the touch screen as much as possible, 

This thread is about the next D-model, the models without screen.

[oekoek]

Maybe a M5 style shutter dial with the shutterspeed visible in the viewfinder. An Olympus OM3/OM4 type of spotmeter. 36 Mega pixels would do, for me and i never felt the need for an advanced sort of thumbrest.

[jaapv]

On 7/23/2024 at 1:12 PM, Viv said:

No meter.

No screen.

Fixed 35mm lens.

 No shutter button. Such models are not meant  to take photographs with. 

[Photoworks]

there should be an M12-D  in pink with glitter, and a back screen for the menu but no image.

IBIS and better infos in RF, that few red characters are getting very limiting is the menu is in it.
Konica Hexar RF  infos or the Pixii are a suggestion.

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[setuporg]

On 7/23/2024 at 2:58 AM, Al Brown said:

Display.

I'm guessing you want a top display like SL or S series?:)