The future of the SL system and why there is no roadmap for lenses

[LocalHero1953]

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The Sigma 85/1.4 is also out there - AF in L mount. @Red Dot Cameras has posted a few portraits that look nice.

[JohnathanLovm]

Please wait faster for Leica rehousing the rest of this prime lenses. Which more practical for SL3’s video. 

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[Sohail]

On 3/22/2024 at 3:46 AM, LocalHero1953 said:

The Sigma 85/1.4 is also out there - AF in L mount. @Red Dot Cameras has posted a few portraits that look nice.

Where?

Cheers!

[davidmknoble]

On 3/20/2024 at 4:04 AM, andybarton said:

On 3/19/2024 at 1:24 PM, trickness said:

I don't know a single photographer who uses a 24 prime

I do

I agree @andybarton, I love the 24mm focal length.  Ignoring the fact that we have 3 x 24mm lenses in the SL (14-24, 16-35 and 24-90), I love to use the Leica M 24mm Summilux and the 24mm ASPH Elmarit, mostly for landscape, but also portraits on vacation and especially on film. 

But, Leica has historically released a 24mm prime along with a 21mm prime (M Summilux, Elmarit, ASPH Elmarit and Elmarit), and then retired the 24mm well before the 21mm (Summilux, Elmar most recently).  For the R system, the 24mm was a Minolta design, and a weak lens in the lineup.  Used copies are still much less expensive than the 28mm v1 and v2, both Leica designs (The 21mm is a much older design in the R series).

I would love to have a 24mm weather sealed prime at f/2 for the SL, but if it doesn’t happen I will still be happy with the lenses available.

[LocalHero1953]

12 minutes ago, Sohail said:

Where?

Cheers!

These were the two I noticed. A forum search for 'Sigma 85' throws up quite a few others by @Alan Friedman and @Almizilero and others.

[MediaFotografie]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb JohnathanLovm:

Please wait faster for Leica rehousing the rest of this prime lenses. Which more practical for SL3’s video. 

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wonderful, really! but 18mm/1.8 is missing...   🙂 

[MFT-Lehrling]

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I went in the SL System because it is the best for adapting old and manual lenses.

Stayed for the APO-Primes... and i think its a good System, that has its wrongs, but sigma and panasonic are quiete helpfull.... (e.g. 500 5.6 <3)

My wishes for the future would be, that we get a "perfect" 20-75 "ish" zoom. The ones that are on the market are not that tempting perfomance wise. I do not care if its apo or designed by sigma or panasonic. (with leica branding and price) 

Just make something special again. (like the 24-90 or the SL-APOs)
Updating the 24-90 would also be nice in the next few years.

In my opinion, the biggest adventage for the SL-System is, that Leica has customers who are willing to pay a premium for special lenses. Make them. 
 

Edited March 23, 2024 by MFT-Lehrling

[MakinMemories]

On 3/19/2024 at 3:31 AM, LocalHero1953 said:

Hmm, my Summilux-SL 50 cost me more than enough second hand recently. Yes, it's a monster as a 50, but it does things other lenses can't.

I would also be interested in a Summilux-SL 75 or 85. After all they make the Noctilux-M 75.

 

 

 

Agree on the Lux SL50, big N heavy but a very, very special lens! For me, glad I chose it over the other 50mm offerings🙂

[LocalHero1953]

1 minute ago, MakinMemories said:

Agree on the Lux SL50, big N heavy but a very, very special lens! For me, glad I chose it over the other 50mm offerings🙂

During a play rehearsal today I was thinking about the weight of the Summilux-SL 50 (and other SL lenses) and why I don't find it a problem. I use the SL series with a handstrap (Herringbone Heritage), with the camera and lens dangling from my fingers around the grip; the strap stops it slipping out of my hand. It's quite a relaxed way of carrying it - it doesn't bump or swing as a shoulder strap would, and I don't have to grip hard as I would with a wrist strap. I just swing it up to my eye when I see a shot. I am carrying it around on and off for several hours like this without feeling that the weight was too much.

[MFT-Lehrling]

For the big lenses or with big winter gloves i like to use the sl2 with the rrs baseplate and thumbs up. It is easier. Iam a bit surprised, because it is heavy, but feels solid with these 2 add-ons. It makes up for the flat back of the sl2, and Lack of thumb Support/grip like other cameras normaly have in any shape or form. 

[Olaf_ZG]

10 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

During a play rehearsal today I was thinking about the weight of the Summilux-SL 50 (and other SL lenses) and why I don't find it a problem. I use the SL series with a handstrap (Herringbone Heritage), with the camera and lens dangling from my fingers around the grip; the strap stops it slipping out of my hand. It's quite a relaxed way of carrying it - it doesn't bump or swing as a shoulder strap would, and I don't have to grip hard as I would with a wrist strap. I just swing it up to my eye when I see a shot. I am carrying it around on and off for several hours like this without feeling that the weight was too much.

And no shoulderstrap at all, just that one?

[LocalHero1953]

2 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said:

And no shoulderstrap at all, just that one?

No shoulder strap. I use a shoulder strap on most of my older film Leicas, as I suspect the older bodies aren't strong enough to hang from one lug. I have wrist straps for my Q2 and MP.

[huwm]

2 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said:

And no shoulderstrap at all, just that one?

I use the peak design clutch in the same way, rarely use anything else

[LocalHero1953]

Mind you, that only works when I am concentrating on photography, such as at a play rehearsal. When I first got the SL and 24-90, I took it away for a weekend tourist break. Carrying it around all day, even with the occasional café stop, it felt heavy. Now, I would never use a SL for a carry-around camera - that's what the Q2 is good for!

[LocalHero1953]

7 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Mind you, that only works when I am concentrating on photography, such as at a play rehearsal. When I first got the SL and 24-90, I took it away for a weekend tourist break. Carrying it around all day, even with the occasional café stop, it felt heavy. Now, I would never use a SL for a carry-around camera - that's what the Q2 is good for!

I should have said - that was carrying the camera all day in a Fogg bag, with a broad shoulder strap, not with just a hand strap!.

Edited March 25, 2024 by LocalHero1953

[Donald M]

20 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

During a play rehearsal today I was thinking about the weight of the Summilux-SL 50 (and other SL lenses) and why I don't find it a problem. I use the SL series with a handstrap (Herringbone Heritage), with the camera and lens dangling from my fingers around the grip; the strap stops it slipping out of my hand. It's quite a relaxed way of carrying it - it doesn't bump or swing as a shoulder strap would, and I don't have to grip hard as I would with a wrist strap. I just swing it up to my eye when I see a shot. I am carrying it around on and off for several hours like this without feeling that the weight was too much.

I have the same experience. I used to use the herringbone as well, but exchanged it for the handstrap from Eddycam, which is of better quality and better fitted my hand. 
 

Cheers!

Donald

[TeleElmar135mm]

Good news, and no pain for all of us, "A new Sigma patent published today unveils some superb new lenses options for us Sony shooters:

1. Sigma 300mm f/2.8 for mirrorless system cameras (which definitely means there will be an E and L-mount version).
2. Sigma 250mm f/2.0 for mirrorless system cameras
3. Sigma 200mm f/1.8 for mirrorless system cameras"

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/wow-new-sigma-patent-discloses-the-design-of-a-new-300mm-f-2-8-and-400mmf-4-0-for-sony-fe/

The bad news: It's from 2020 ... the same roadmap Leica uses

Edited March 25, 2024 by TeleElmar135mm

[JohnathanLovm]

Oh hey, Sigma just announced a new 50mm f/1.2 dg dn with $1400 only. Maybe we will see Noctilux-SL?

[Simone_DF]

19 hours ago, TeleElmar135mm said:

Good news, and no pain for all of us, "A new Sigma patent published today unveils some superb new lenses options for us Sony shooters:

1. Sigma 300mm f/2.8 for mirrorless system cameras (which definitely means there will be an E and L-mount version).
2. Sigma 250mm f/2.0 for mirrorless system cameras
3. Sigma 200mm f/1.8 for mirrorless system cameras"

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/wow-new-sigma-patent-discloses-the-design-of-a-new-300mm-f-2-8-and-400mmf-4-0-for-sony-fe/

The bad news: It's from 2020 ... the same roadmap Leica uses

A patent means only that they have a design in mind, not that they will actually make them. Companies file patents all the time, sometimes to prevent other companies to release the same identical implementation of a product / idea before them

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Hallo,

Look here: Leica L-Mount

[TeleElmar135mm]

vor 39 Minuten schrieb Simone_DF:

A patent means only that they have a design in mind, not that they will actually make them. Companies file patents all the time, sometimes to prevent other companies to release the same identical implementation of a product / idea before them

it was sarcasm from me ... at the end this is the problem in the L-System. Promises but no real word lens. Today we have another 50mm from Sigma. Nice to have but iss this needet 1/3 stop more?