Q2/Q3 or Hasselblad X2D? Which do you choose?

[Viv]

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1 hour ago, student said:

Sensible; greatly facilitates a continuous real-time comparison

And do you now have a preference after experiencing both?

If pressed, I would have to say the X2D, by a fine margin.

[student]

1 hour ago, Viv said:

If pressed, I would have to say the X2D, by a fine margin.

Thank you. I take it that you are ok with the relatively larger package and some additional weight

[Viv]

15 hours ago, student said:

Thank you. I take it that you are ok with the relatively larger package and some additional weight

You may so take it.

[Leica Filmmatic]

If you can afford both get em! If you have to choose one get the x2d 

[SrMi]

My biggest beef with X2D is that it does not have highlight-clipping warnings in live view. It makes setting proper exposure much harder than with Q3.

My biggest beef with Q3 is that it does not have BBF, meaning I have to rely more on MF than on AF.

[Smogg]

12 hours ago, SrMi said:

My biggest beef with X2D is that it does not have highlight-clipping warnings in live view. It makes setting proper exposure much harder than with Q3.

My biggest beef with Q3 is that it does not have BBF, meaning I have to rely more on MF than on AF.

I agree, but I still miss in both cameras the ability to emulate exposure only when the shutter button is half-pressed (like in the M11) to improve screen/viewfinder readability in high-contrast lighting, which happens on any sunny day.

Edited July 30, 2024 by Smogg

[Viv]

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On 7/29/2024 at 3:58 AM, Leica Filmmatic said:

If you can afford both get em! If you have to choose one get the x2d 

This is good advice.

[bags27]

2 hours ago, Quarterpounder said:

I looked at the X2D some time ago, being a Hasselblad fanboy (V-series). There was no love. It felt "generic" in want for a better term.

I agree. Tried my friend's, and just shrugged. Bought a used 907x 50c. It's a fun camera and I'm enjoying it. For digital, it produces highly pleasing photos. More importantly, it slaps on the back of my 500 c/m, my main camera. 

Edited September 6, 2024 by bags27

[BWColor]

“Q3 or X2D”  is a comparison of two cameras with a very different intended use.  True, you can use both for some environments, like street photography, but when I asked what I wanted it was X2D vs SL3.

I settled on M11 the Monochrom with various lenses and the X2D and 25/38/90 v lenses.  The X2D is a much larger package than an “M” camera and lenses.  The Monochrom produces images that rival the X2D in resolution and the B&W high ISO nature of this camera can’t be touched by any color camera that I know of.  The X2D/38v combination is a rather compact package which really is ideal for travel.  I wanted to like and purchase the smaller ‘P’ lenses, but the pancake lenses give up just a bit in terms of image quality and are more reliant upon software for distortion correction.

A new APO Q3/Q4 would be an attractive product, but being smaller than the X2D and a fixed lens, it would likely make a case for itself as an additional camera, but not a substitute. 

Edited September 6, 2024 by BWColor
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[Olaf_ZG]

As the rumors are out, both @Pelu2010 and I will opt for the SL66… it will be a truly great camera.

[bobtodrick]

What to chose, a Ferrari 296 GTS or a Maserati SUV?

Two completely different animals!!!!

[bags27]

6 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said:

As the rumors are out, both @Pelu2010 and I will opt for the SL66… it will be a truly great camera.

a truly fantastic camera. Although I use a Blad 500 c/m with pretty top glass, and a Mamiya 7 with all the glass (except 1 lens), I geneflect to the SL66. Maybe the smartest, best camera ever. Rollei probably drew this near-perfect camera up long before, but had to wait for Victor to die so they could break their agreement.

So why do I not own it? Because underneath that beautiful exterior is something like 1000 parts, all aging with no spares (except cannibalizing) and a long wait for repairs, assuming someone is willing to undertake it.

But maybe a week doesn't go by when I don't wish I had grabbed a set of lenses and 3 bodies (1 to shoot and 1 to have in repair and 1 to cannibalize).

Edited September 6, 2024 by bags27

[robb]

I use two x2d with the 4 new v lenses.  Amazing setup other than contunuous af and longer lenses to me.

beautiful camera to use with stunning results.  I don’t compare it to the old 205 or 500 series cameras.  I liked those 25-30 years ago.  I can reminisce and move on with new things.  

I like my q2 or q3, but will use the x2d over them with just the 38mm most days.  But x2d gives me other lens options…

[Kiwimac]

On 7/11/2024 at 7:43 AM, student said:

Thank you. I take it that you are ok with the relatively larger package and some additional weight

I was intrigued to realise that an X2D with a 55V fitted is more or less the same weight as an M11 with a 21 f1.4 attached. 
 

Just goes to show that an M can be chunky too. 

[Olaf_ZG]

6 hours ago, bags27 said:

a truly fantastic camera. Although I use a Blad 500 c/m with pretty top glass, and a Mamiya 7 with all the glass (except 1 lens), I geneflect to the SL66. Maybe the smartest, best camera ever. Rollei probably drew this near-perfect camera up long before, but had to wait for Victor to die so they could break their agreement.

So why do I not own it? Because underneath that beautiful exterior is something like 1000 parts, all aging with no spares (except cannibalizing) and a long wait for repairs, assuming someone is willing to undertake it.

But maybe a week doesn't go by when I don't wish I had grabbed a set of lenses and 3 bodies (1 to shoot and 1 to have in repair and 1 to cannibalize).

The old one was great, but the new one will be better, I guess it wont be a SL66, but a S66.

[bags27]

11 hours ago, Al Brown said:

The word is out: New wide angle zoom XCD 3.2-4.5/20-35 is coming.

With 100 mps do folks feel they need the weight and cost of a zoom like this, or would simply the X 21 or 25 work? That's the point behind the Q3. I ask as someone who won't be buying this glass, though of course others will.

[SrMi]

16 minutes ago, bags27 said:

With 100 mps do folks feel they need the weight and cost of a zoom like this, or would simply the X 21 or 25 work? That's the point behind the Q3. I ask as someone who won't be buying this glass, though of course others will.

I’d rather use the whole sensor than “simulate” an FF or APS-C sensor (aka cropping).

Edited September 7, 2024 by SrMi

[BWColor]

19 hours ago, robb said:

I use two x2d with the 4 new v lenses.  Amazing setup other than contunuous af and longer lenses to me.

beautiful camera to use with stunning results.  I don’t compare it to the old 205 or 500 series cameras.  I liked those 25-30 years ago.  I can reminisce and move on with new things.  

I like my q2 or q3, but will use the x2d over them with just the 38mm most days.  But x2d gives me other lens options…

The 38mm/X2D is an amazingly capable and compact combination.  I’m trying to get use to the 25v, but it is so much larger than the 38mm and for me the 90mm is more an intended use lens.  What I haven’t played with for years is daylight fill flash.  I have an ultra compact Godox flash, which works in manual mode, or automatic mode much like the old Vivitar 285HV.  The larger, but compact Godox V860iiN works amazingly well on TTL and will automatically choose the proper coverage angle from my 25 to the 90. Nano for Nikon works great as a transmitter, whereas the 860 can transmit, or receive.  It really is nice using fill flash with the leaf shutter.  I’m coming from the Sony A9/A7Rv, so the autofocus capabilities are wanting, but I use to shoot field sports and no longer demand the Sony’s focusing acumen.  I’m getting use to using the touch screen to pre position the focusing square, but for much of what I do, manual focusing works great and the X2D/XCD  manual focusing is easier than focusing my M11M.  All, body and three lenses fits in the PhotoCross 13 Sling bag, which qualifies on US carriers as a purse.

Regarding cropping to achieve the results of a longer lens, this isn’t really much of an issue unless I’m going to be printing really big.  I rarely shoot with the intention of cropping, but shots that look good in a panoramic format provide my main reason for cropping.

Edited September 7, 2024 by BWColor
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[bags27]

2 hours ago, SrMi said:

I’d rather use the whole sensor than “simulate” an FF or APS-C sensor (aka cropping).

I get it. I'm not criticizing the preference. Each to his own. A friend shoots the X2D with the 35-75 zoom, which is an outstanding lens. Of course, he's always looking at me enviously as I carry the 907x with the 45p. 🙂

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[SrMi]

26 minutes ago, bags27 said:

I get it. I'm not criticizing the preference. Each to his own. A friend shoots the X2D with the 35-75 zoom, which is an outstanding lens. Of course, he's always looking at me enviously as I carry the 907x with the 45p. 🙂

I use mainly primes with X2D.