Noncemale Posted March 29, 2023 Share #1 Posted March 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello. Can someone tell me what this is? I found it in the attic of my grandfather's house. The box contains two identical pieces that have an electric bulb, cable and a plug. They are dated 1938. Thank you. Eduardo Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello. Can someone tell me what this is? I found it in the attic of my grandfather's house. The box contains two identical pieces that have an electric bulb, cable and a plug. They are dated 1938. Thank you. Eduardo ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374823-question/?do=findComment&comment=4739218'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted March 29, 2023 Share #2 Posted March 29, 2023 Is there any connection to Leica or even photography? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted March 29, 2023 Share #3 Posted March 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, jaapv said: Is there any connection to Leica or even photography? It says Leica in the box. Is that close enough? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 29, 2023 Share #4 Posted March 29, 2023 Ah yes, I see that now. Still does. not ring a bell. Maybe something to do with microscopes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noncemale Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted March 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, jaapv said: Is there any connection to Leica or even photography? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374823-question/?do=findComment&comment=4739266'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 29, 2023 Share #6 Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Why on earth have you pixellated the info in the ovals if you are asking for help? Does it not strike you that the info (IF ANY!) there might be significant? It could be that they were swastikas, of course (and looking again at the image in the OP that does seem likely), or other such symbolism but if so we really do need to be told such stuff. It will help us to help you. P. Edited March 29, 2023 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noncemale Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted March 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 minutes ago, pippy said: Why on earth have you pixellated the info in the ovals if you are asking for help? Does it not strike you that the info (IF ANY!) there might be significant? It could be that they were swastikas, of course, or other such symbolism but if so we really do need to be told such stuff. It will help us to help you. P. Swastikas flags. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 29, 2023 Share #8 Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Noncemale said: Swastikas flags. Thank you. The oval bottom-right in the photograph in the OP suggested as much. I'm sure there will be many people here who might have ideas regarding an answer to your question. Best of luck! P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpitt Posted March 30, 2023 Share #9 Posted March 30, 2023 Try the German forum too, certainly if it has swastika's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 30, 2023 Share #10 Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Intriguing. The proportions are similar to a 35mm negative or photograph, and the little engraved triangles in the corners may impersonate photo corners, so are they some sort of presentation photo frames to hold a portrait in the round area? If only the back of them wasn't top-secret there may be more clues. Edited March 30, 2023 by 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted March 30, 2023 Share #11 Posted March 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Noncemale said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello. Can someone tell me what this is? I found it in the attic of my grandfather's house. The box contains two identical pieces that have an electric bulb, cable and a plug. They are dated 1938. Thank you. Eduardo Looks like some sort of commemorative or presentation box for viewing images. Seems a bit unwieldy for stereo viewing, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 30, 2023 Share #12 Posted March 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Noncemale said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello. Can someone tell me what this is? I found it in the attic of my grandfather's house. The box contains two identical pieces that have an electric bulb, cable and a plug. They are dated 1938. Thank you. Eduardo There is a plate on the front of the box which may or may not say something. The engraving on the brass objects is not typical of Leitz or Leica with the latter usually having an underscored L. Leitz produced a lot of lighting units (list too long to show here) for reproduction etc work during the 1930s, but these don't jump out as being any of those items. Also these are in a presentation case which would not have been typical of Leitz in that period. I suspect that these were made up by a non Leitz source, but in order to determine their use it would be necessary to see reasonable quality images of the items outside the box. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted March 30, 2023 Share #13 Posted March 30, 2023 Do you have any additional pictures from other angles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabears Posted March 30, 2023 Share #14 Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, thrid said: Do you have any additional pictures from other angles? The answer is lost in outer space, I guess 🤖 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted March 30, 2023 Share #15 Posted March 30, 2023 I agree with William that this does not look like a Leitz product. I don't think Leitz would offer a special presentation box with swastika's in 1938. To me it looks like another party made this box to present a certain Leitz item, if it isn't a fake product. Lex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 30, 2023 Share #16 Posted March 30, 2023 But why is the lid padded? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfaspen Posted March 31, 2023 Share #17 Posted March 31, 2023 Is it bad that there were swastikas in the ovals? I understand that we don't like the nature of that period but do we really have to go to such lengths? Maybe I'm missing something. In any case, the presentation case is a mystery. I don't know what it could be but maybe some "aftermarket" presentation of some Leica items as a special gift? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted March 31, 2023 Share #18 Posted March 31, 2023 Am 29.3.2023 um 23:26 schrieb Noncemale: Hello. Can someone tell me what this is? I found it in the attic of my grandfather's house. The box contains two identical pieces that have an electric bulb, cable and a plug. They are dated 1938. Thank you. Eduardo can you show that "electric bulb" and give some measures of the box and the round "holes"? Without your mentionig of these parts I thought it might show some medals memorating or honoring something in 1938, as ist reads "Germany" it was either intended for use outside Germany or made later. Maybe there was no connection between the box and the parts you found inside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted March 31, 2023 Share #19 Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, rfaspen said: In any case, the presentation case is a mystery. I don't know what it could be but maybe some "aftermarket" presentation of some Leica items as a special gift? I think a presentation case is a distinct possibility, but it could equally be a simple carrying case for an illuminated display (maybe the ovals glowed?) so perhaps for a trade show display or a shop window display? Trade Fairs were becoming very popular around the world after the depression and even if Leica wanted nothing to do with the swastikas something to celebrate German manufacturing could have been commissioned by a government department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 31, 2023 Share #20 Posted March 31, 2023 Am 30.3.2023 um 00:48 schrieb Noncemale: Swastikas flags. As far as I know, Ernst Leitz Wetzlar never used swastikas or any other "official" signs on their products. If they appear they were fitted afterwards by some state or military institutions - or they indicate a fake. The engraving "Ernst Leitz Wetzlar - Leica 1938 - Germany" does not look original to me. With the inscription "Leica" you can rule out that it was a device for microscopes or any other scientific purpose, as at this time the name "Leica" was only used for the photographic products. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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