SL3 Rumors

[Chaemono]

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vor 17 Minuten schrieb hmarkweidman:

Better focusing on moving subjects than the SL2.   For some reason, the SL2-S is better than the SL2 at fast focusing, even though they both have the same focusing mechanism.  I did not read through all the posts but was surprised someone did not mention this one significant flaw in the SL2.

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

[SrMi]

11 hours ago, Stuart Richardson said:

I’ll be curious to see how the lens holds up to 60+ mp. It is already a bit strained at 47, to my eyes. At least anywhere other than the central frame area. In any case, unless they do a longer focal length, the upgrades are not too interesting to me, although they are nice. A better VF would be a true improvement…same for the same battery and usb c charging. 

The resolution difference is only 14% (linear is what matters). Which lens are you concerned about? A good lens will be good regardless of resolution. The IQ does not collapse at a certain number of MPs.

[BernardC]

2 hours ago, SrMi said:

The resolution difference is only 14% (linear is what matters). Which lens are you concerned about? A good lens will be good regardless of resolution. The IQ does not collapse at a certain number of MPs.

He was talking about the Q in this case, because someone mentioned a LeicaRumors post about the Q3.

The Q's fixed lens isn't quite as good as our APO-Summicrons-SLs, but you would expect that because it's smaller, and the whole camera/lens combo costs around the same as an SL 28mm lens on its own.

[BernardC]

15 hours ago, Planetwide said:

Remember it is a rumour... Sony could easily custom make the same sensor without/disabled the AF pixels. The dynamic range is virtually identical to the Sony unit

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Leica M11,Sony ILCE-7RM4,Sony ILCE-7RM5

It's also virtually identical to the Canon R5 curve, and to the Panasonic S1R curve. DR isn't the differentiator that it was in the early days of digital cameras.

[Planetwide]

4 minutes ago, BernardC said:

It's also virtually identical to the Canon R5 curve, and to the Panasonic S1R curve. DR isn't the differentiator that it was in the early days of digital cameras.

I have a feeling that we will find out this year...😉

[SrMi]

53 minutes ago, BernardC said:

He was talking about the Q in this case, because someone mentioned a LeicaRumors post about the Q3.

The Q's fixed lens isn't quite as good as our APO-Summicrons-SLs, but you would expect that because it's smaller, and the whole camera/lens combo costs around the same as an SL 28mm lens on its own.

Thanks for the explanation. Since the Q/Q2 lens relies heavily on SDC, I expect the IQ (especially corners) to improve with higher resolutions (as it did with Q2).

[Stuart Richardson]

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2 hours ago, SrMi said:

Thanks for the explanation. Since the Q/Q2 lens relies heavily on SDC, I expect the IQ (especially corners) to improve with higher resolutions (as it did with Q2).

Interesting. I had not considered that. I have to admit I don’t really love the lens in the Q2…but I rely a lot on corner sharpness for landscape work, which is not really what this camera is optimized for as of now. It still does a very good job, however. 

[kobra]

48 minutes ago, Stuart Richardson said:

Interesting. I had not considered that. I have to admit I don’t really love the lens in the Q2…but I rely a lot on corner sharpness for landscape work, which is not really what this camera is optimized for as of now. It still does a very good job, however. 

My "addiction" started with a Q2 about 18 months ago (newbie!). The Q2 is fantastic for what it does and where it can go, etc. But, like you I also enjoy landscape photography and I agree it is not optimized for that. So... that has started my upward path (downward spiral??) into the SL2 system with a number of lenses. The SL 16-35 really is a special lens for landscapes, and the 90-280 is unique and compelling to me. 

And, since I'm already addicted, I am waiting eagerly to see what the Q3 and SL3 will bring to the table. 

I strongly suspect (but really just guessing), that the Q3 will attract another wave new of Leica users. But, even more so, I think the SL3 has the potential to place the L mount system as a serious competitor to the SoCaNikon world. The Panasonic S5ii is already gaining a lot of favorable attention (DPR pundits saying best camera ever), and I see the 3rd generation of the SL cameras have the potential to gather similar attention, by adding all of the other "Leica special" things we all enjoy. 

Brad

[SrMi]

4 hours ago, Stuart Richardson said:

Interesting. I had not considered that. I have to admit I don’t really love the lens in the Q2…but I rely a lot on corner sharpness for landscape work, which is not really what this camera is optimized for as of now. It still does a very good job, however. 

FWIW, this is a recent DPR article on SDC (it will likely disappear after April 10th):

A distortion of the truth? Here’s why we’re not against software lens corrections

[ynp]

40 minutes ago, SrMi said:

FWIW, this is a recent DPR article on SDC (it will likely disappear after April 10th):

A distortion of the truth? Here’s why we’re not against software lens corrections

Thank you. Very interesting discussion there. 
I love my lenses light and compact and I have been tolerating the digital corrections since the introduction of Hasselblad DAC in 2008. 
But when I mount my S lenses on the SL I know that no digital correction is necessary. Even the focusing ring is a real thing. Heavy though. 

[tangosix]

Every time I see this thread I want to add another APO lens for the upcoming SL3. 

 

[cheekz4dayz]

I would just love for the focus and low light iso to be a bit better. I only have the sl2 but pretty much just keep the iso at 6400 max. I prefer shooting in aperture priority and I rarely post process so it would be amazing if those could be abit better. Also if the q3 lens cap wouldn't fall off all the time id buy the q3 and sl3 this year.

 

I know If I embrace post processing I can get rid of some of my sl2 issues but that takes the fun out of photography personally 

[DanielJr]

Thoughts on a Monochrom SL3.? 

[MediaFotografie]

vor einer Stunde schrieb DanielJr:

Thoughts on a Monochrom SL3.? 

We will not see a monochrome - same as SL2 and SL601 - just my five cents

[Chaemono]

Am 28.3.2023 um 22:16 schrieb SrMi:

FWIW, this is a recent DPR article on SDC (it will likely disappear after April 10th😞

A distortion of the truth? Here’s why we’re not against software lens corrections

Fortunately, it won’t now.

[SrMi]

9 hours ago, DanielJr said:

Thoughts on a Monochrom SL3.? 

FWIW, Pentax has launched a monochrome K-3 III (APS-C).

[jplomley]

A monochrome of 60 MP or better might just be what keeps me in the SL system. That sensor with the APO Summicrons would be unmatched for landscape applications! 21-28-50-90 APO SC's + 80 MP SL3M....wow!

[helged]

4 hours ago, jplomley said:

A monochrome of 60 MP or better might just be what keeps me in the SL system. That sensor with the APO Summicrons would be unmatched for landscape applications! 21-28-50-90 APO SC's + 80 MP SL3M....wow!

21-35-90 in my case. Whenever 21 sees the public light... 

[MediaFotografie]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb helged:

21-35-90 in my case. Whenever 21 sees the public light... 

same here, 21-35-90 - hopefully in the next weeks;

yes, it must be great to see the APO-Summicron-SLs in usage with a SL3m non-Bayer 60 MP BSI Sensor - but I really doubt we will get this.

btw, I prefer my personal workflow using Silver Efex pro to convert to monochrome having the colors in every case

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[Stuart Richardson]

I would imagine it would be a boon for multishot too...fewer potential issues, as you don't need to stitch together an interpolated bayer matrix...just pixel by pixel perfection...