MyLeicaWorld Posted January 29, 2023 Share #1 Posted January 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) No, I don’t think so.. the maestro processor will remain the same, so will the megapixels.. remember the m10p .. nothing has changed . Jut a new touch screen, a perspective control and a new top plate arrived with an engraving and a screw instead of the red dot.. and no need to mention the silent shutter.. but the image quality remained the same.. so can we say anyone hoping the m11 will the medicine for the low light noise and the locking issues will be disappointed? so at the sum I think M11 will be coming with new top plate, with no red dot and maybe with some new a few software additions.. that’s all.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MyLeicaWorld Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share #2 Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, MyLeicaWorld said: No, I don’t think so.. the maestro processor will remain the same, so will the megapixels.. remember the m10p .. nothing has changed . Jut a new touch screen, a perspective control and a new top plate arrived with an engraving and a screw instead of the red dot.. and no need to mention the silent shutter.. but the image quality remained the same.. so can we say anyone hoping the m11 will the medicine for the low light noise and the locking issues will be disappointed? so at the sum I think M11 will be coming with new top plate, with no red dot and maybe with some new a few software additions.. that’s all.. Posted 3 hours ago some corrections = No, I don’t think so.. the maestro processor will remain the same, so will the megapixels.. remember the m10p .. nothing has changed . Just a new touch screen, a perspective control and a new top plate arrived with an engraving and a screw instead of the red dot.. and no need to mention the silent shutter.. but the image quality remained the same.. so can we say m11 will be the medicine for the low light noise and the locking issues ? I don’t think so.. so at the sum I think M11 will be coming with new top plate, with no red dot and maybe with a few software additions.. that’s all.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLeicaWorld Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted January 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, jqian6 said: You need another correction , you missed quite a lot -P there I couldn’t remember more.. Can you you please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 29, 2023 Share #4 Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, MyLeicaWorld said: I couldn’t remember more.. Can you you please? safari green color LOL 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 29, 2023 Share #5 Posted January 29, 2023 I am pretty confident that current M11 problems will be fixed in the M11 model. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 29, 2023 Share #6 Posted January 29, 2023 The problems you're referring to have been fixed by firmware 1.6 for me so i would only upgrade if the M11-P has IBIS, which is highly unlikely, or perhaps a shorter shutter actuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 29, 2023 Share #7 Posted January 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 hours ago, MyLeicaWorld said: I couldn’t remember more.. Can you you please? Didn't the M10-P come with a new shutter actuation? Or at least better muffling to make it quieter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLeicaWorld Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted January 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: Didn't the M10-P come with a new shutter actuation? Or at least better muffling to make it quieter. I mentioned it above 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLeicaWorld Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted January 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, lct said: The problems you're referring to have been fixed by firmware 1.6 for me so i would only upgrade if the M11-P has IBIS, which is highly unlikely, or perhaps a shorter shutter actuation. For me I never had such problems that’s why I said “so called” .. The only upgrade can be shorter shutter actuation.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 29, 2023 Share #10 Posted January 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, MyLeicaWorld said: I mentioned it above Sorry - misread! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted January 29, 2023 Share #11 Posted January 29, 2023 A true 'P' camera in my mind needs no cosmetic changes. Just one thing - instant start up time. It's what actual 'professionals' need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 29, 2023 Share #12 Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, charlesphoto99 said: A true 'P' camera in my mind needs no cosmetic changes. Just one thing - instant start up time. It's what actual 'professionals' need. P really means taking off the red dot and engraving the Leica on top plate. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted January 30, 2023 Share #13 Posted January 30, 2023 The M11-P will come with at least 128gb of internal storage if not 256gb. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 30, 2023 Share #14 Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, charlesphoto99 said: A true 'P' camera in my mind needs no cosmetic changes. Just one thing - instant start up time. It's what actual 'professionals' need. I believe only film cameras have instant startup time. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted January 30, 2023 Share #15 Posted January 30, 2023 May be a little more memory buffer? firmware 1.6 is greatly improved my experience so far, finger crossed it would only get better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 30, 2023 Share #16 Posted January 30, 2023 It will be better in small ways, but if they don't fix the M11 freezing issue(s) before then, then we have bigger issues to worry about such as the state of Leica as a functional company. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted January 30, 2023 Share #17 Posted January 30, 2023 M11 is very good camera, I read this forum and every day think how desperate it sounds, when in reality it is a good piece of equipment. Knocking on wood... but apart a couple of bugs all cool here. 😉 G . 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewl Posted January 30, 2023 Share #18 Posted January 30, 2023 Real Leicaman only buy the P-model if it costs more than 10 grant! This is actually not that unrealistic considering the current price developments 🙂 But I agree with some of the previous posters, would be quite critical if Leica releases a new model of a model that still has issues to be fixed. Just adding new features does not really help to compensate 😉 And if things are only solvable with a new model (hardware-wise), then we and Leica have a much bigger problem. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted January 30, 2023 Share #19 Posted January 30, 2023 It depends what’s causing the issues. I’m no electronics engineer, but say for the sake of argument that on one of the circuit boards supplied from outside Leica, a capacitor exists that is of random poor quality. Leica would presumably have the supplier change it - and if their contract lawyers are any good, will have the supplier liable for the cost of any necessary repairs. it might be easier to implement new boards at the P introduction, especially if the internal memory is enhanced for example, which I think would be a good differentiator. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted January 30, 2023 Share #20 Posted January 30, 2023 I'll say it again, for what it's worth, my sample size of 1 Leica M11 has only had freezing issues when the battery power got very low. When the battery has a sufficient charge to operate, it has worked flawlessly. This is the best digital camera I have ever owned (and I have owned Leica M9-P, Leica M-P typ 240, Nikon D800E, Nikon D850, Ricoh GR digital II and III). I am sure there are M11 cameras with problems, but they are likely to be a small minority of those sold. Electronic devices have bathtub shaped failure rates, so the majority of failures occur very soon after a device begins to be used, or after a decade or so. Leica is not immune to this problem which is inherent to any product with complex circuitry that can be brought down by the failure of one component. Leica has excellent warranty and customer service, so if your new Leica M11 craps out in a week they will exchange it for another, and you will likely be good to go for as long as you will likely want to use the camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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