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New Voigtlander 35mm f1.5 Type I and II announced

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mheine
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Had the opportunity to snap a few shots after work, unfortunately it's bad weather and it was freezing cold, so nothing special. All of these were shot on f1.5 and M10 and I have to say: This lens f

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I snapped a few portraits today on a walk - all of them were shot on f1.5. I did my standard procedure in post but kept away from the sharpness slider and didn't fix either the vignette nor the distor

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So I used it today for a shoot in the studio, and let me tell you, an overall combination of very decent IQ, handling, size, and quality, I prefer it to my cron 35 asph that I just returned. Wide open

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Does vintage line mean a vintage look and feel or a vintage optical design? I don't like vintage optical designs because I don't want to work around things I consider flaws. This lens seems to contain aspherical elements which sounds like a modern optical design but I have no knowledge of lens design..... 

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It will be released on 24 November 2022.

https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/vm-mount/

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On 11/5/2022 at 7:01 AM, tom.w.bn said:

Does vintage line mean a vintage look and feel or a vintage optical design? I don't like vintage optical designs because I don't want to work around things I consider flaws. This lens seems to contain aspherical elements which sounds like a modern optical design but I have no knowledge of lens design..... 

I am hoping it's not too vintage looking too. I like high contrast high resolution modern lenses. Hoping this can be a compact alternative to the Zeiss 35mm/1.4 ZM or the Voigtländer 35mm/2 Apo. Both of those are fine lenses but very long compared with most 35mm RF lenses.

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54 minutes ago, sdk said:

I am hoping it's not too vintage looking too. I like high contrast high resolution modern lenses. Hoping this can be a compact alternative to the Zeiss 35mm/1.4 ZM or the Voigtländer 35mm/2 Apo. Both of those are fine lenses but very long compared with most 35mm RF lenses.

The "Vintage" is only in the name for the external appearance of the lens. Inside, it has a modern optical design and will probably perform similarly to the CV 35/1.2 and 40/1.2 Nokton versions since their optical design is very similar.

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On 11/13/2022 at 11:52 AM, Fred Miranda said:

The "Vintage" is only in the name for the external appearance of the lens. Inside, it has a modern optical design and will probably perform similarly to the CV 35/1.2 and 40/1.2 Nokton versions since their optical design is very similar.

I guess "vintage" is in the eye of the beholder then, if it's product appearance-based, rather than optics-based. Seems like a little nuance of the word is mutated in translation to Japanese and back to English, though perhaps I am being too literal. 

This lens looks very interesting as an everyday carry around lens, if the chromatic aberration control is good. But my ZM 35mm/1.4 will probably still be my choice for the highest quality landscape photos or night photography.

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On 10/18/2022 at 2:27 PM, mheine said:

Super excited, maybe this will become my only 35mm for the M system. I have the amazing Distagon ZM 35mm f1.4 and the lovely Voigtländer Nokton 35mm f1.4 - maybe this lens can replace both of them. Fingers are crossed!

I have the Distagon as well; sharp but larger than I’d like and colors are cold.  This might might be a nice choice if it’s anything like the new Ultron 28, which I love or the APO Lanthars, which are amazing. Will await some reviews. 

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On 10/15/2022 at 7:17 PM, Al Brown said:

Very good question. It is a double aspherical 9 elements in 6 groups design, here is a diagram from Cosina website. Let’s find a Leica equivalent - if there is one.

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It is a smalle version of Nokton 35mm f1.2 - I checked the optical design and it is the same.

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1 hour ago, Al Brown said:

Cool find but we were looking for a Leica equivalent.

@Pixeleater posted the ASPH Summilux diagram on the previous page https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/340695-new-voigtlander-35mm-f15-type-i-and-ii-announced/?do=findComment&comment=4537548 

The world should see next week if the four aspherical surfaces on the Voigtländer score any points against the Leica design with only one, or the rare ASPHERICAL with two such surfaces.

 

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6 minutes ago, Studienkamera said:

I don't think it is meant to replace the 1.2 version. 

Maybe not directly, but what do you call it when they make a lens that will perform better and in a better package? It’s not as fast is the only con I can see. 

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16 minutes ago, 6bit said:

It’s not as fast is the only con I can see. 

I guess speed is a major reason for buying a 1.2 lens. If the new one performs better otherwise remains to be seen.

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Both the 1.2 and the 1.5 have 12 aperture blades but the bokeh at 1.2 will be creamier.

The 1.2 has a larger opening (52mm filter) while the 1.5 is 39mm. The latter may vignette more.

I think the 1.5 design is closer to the 1.7 Ultron.

Four aspherical surfaces is intriguing and I think Cosina might have pulled off something. 

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12 hours ago, Al Brown said:

Cool find but we were looking for a Leica equivalent.

Not sure, whether you will be able to find identical optical formula. The only known example of a similar design to me is Voigtlander 35 1.4 Nokton SC/MC which supposed to be a copy of the Summilux pre-asph., but if you will look at the optical formula of the latest Steel Rim 35mm-Lux vs. Nokton it is not 1:1 exactly the same so obviously imaging is different.

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vor 8 Stunden schrieb 6bit:

Maybe not directly, but what do you call it when they make a lens that will perform better and in a better package? It’s not as fast is the only con I can see. 

 I assume the Nokton 1.5 lens vignettes a lot at 1.5 while the Nokton 1.2 shows way better vignetting at 1.5. If you don't like vignetting, the Nokton 1.2 will still be the better lens. 

The Nokton 50mm 1.5 vintage has horrible vignetting wide open. Not sure if we can expect a better performance from the Nokton 35mm 1.5. Let's wait for some tests. 

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