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19 hours ago, 28framelines said:

If this didn’t focus to 0.5m, I would have bought one. I don’t know why there’s so much attention on making things for Leica M that lose focus coupling. It makes it a way more annoying thing when you don’t have live view… on a film camera.

I hate it even with an M10. The times I am annoyed by this with a RF are outnumbered by the time it's useful for me in LV is something like a 99999999999999999:1 ratio. I wish the folks implementing these things would put a hard stop switch on it or at least heavy resistance.

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I agree with the above. The implementations of the close focus on the new Leica 35mm lenses, with the detente, really is the magic bullet that solves the transition. Just enough to let you know when you're going slowly, not so much to make it too much of a bother to use (like the old goggle close focus lenses)

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On 10/15/2022 at 11:17 AM, Al Brown said:

Very good question. It is a double aspherical 9 elements in 6 groups design, here is a diagram from Cosina website. Let’s find a Leica equivalent - if there is one.

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Here is exploded views of the Leica v2.

 

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This is the design of the Ultron 35mm f/1.7.  The design of the Nokton 35mm f/1/5 has similarities with this plus the addition of another aspherical element (element 2 from the left) making a total of 4 aspherical surfaces. Note that the Ultron is a very sharp lens. I am excited with this design. Compact and will certainly fill a void between the compact and excellent Ultron f/2, and the larger and superb f/1.2. It will not be a competitor to the Nokton f/1.4 as this is designed to render in a more classical style.

 

 

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vor 16 Stunden schrieb Al Brown:

We have the EU price!

799.00€ (for black paint ver. II confirmed) at Mint and Rare, the official distributor from Vienna. Awesome price again.

German Stores Fotokoch and Meister are listing it with 999 € (Type I) and 1099 € (Type II) ... which seems also more in line with their their other lens pricing Yen <> Euro 🤔

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vor 9 Stunden schrieb Al Brown:

Not sure about price correspondence though, the 120.000 yen list price in Japan equals roughly 800 euros +/- 2%

Not sure if you can convert like this from yen to EUR (taxes?) 🤔

For example the VM 40 / 1.2 is also 120.000 yen, but list price in Europe is 999 EUR (and has been for quite some time I believe). I can imagine that Voigtlander rised this to 1099 EUR for the new 35 mm lens due to the currently weak EUR. 

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The lack of a detent at 0.7 for CV close-focusing lenses on M never bothered me. There is a "visual detent" since the focus patch literarily stops moving when it uncouples. When it stops moving, I stop and move the focus ring slightly back, then I lean in/out to focus.

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Having had both Nokton f1.5’s and Ultrons I have to say I prefer Ultrons. 

I just wonder why they don’t make a 50mm Ultron type II in brass 🤷🏻‍♂️

I like the Noktons now look like Ultrons. Maybe that will make a difference. But I doubt they will kill their own lenses. 
 

The 0.5m mfd is weird and hard to get used to though. They probably just want to make them more useful for mirrorless people. But to shoot on the M, I would rather have a hard stop at 0.7m. 

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Being a double asph it'd be interesting how it compares even to Leicas  Cron/lux lineup. I'm expecting differing characteristics between wide open and stopped down for this lens similar to previous. Double asph is now 'vintage' lol

But given the reissue of the 35mm lux v1 it seems there a resurgence of character lenses at least wide open. In any case I'll be watching this one with anticipation.

The simple tab and the aperture ring is a welcome addition imo.

Q. Will a decoupled lens at close focus damage the rangefinder focus mechanism over time?

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