Reissue 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph V1 Steel Rim

[Fred Miranda]

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59 minutes ago, Winedemonium said:

My Leica M10-R Black Paint with 35mm Summilux steel rim re-issue now sports..... a Nikon 58mm pinch tab lens cap. 😄

Well, they're about the best lens caps I've come across. It fits snugly into the front of the 12486 vented hood. Of course you could buy a generic one and not spoil the look! But, anyway, this is a good solution for lens + filter + hood + cap on this lens.

Just like with the previous 12504 hood, a generic 49mm pinch tab also works fine with the new hood.

[SJH]

On 11/2/2022 at 1:08 AM, hdmesa said:

Try putting the OLLUX hood on first, then carefully lower the filter down into the hood and see if you can get it to screw into the threads. I found this worked with the 28 Summaron to enable hood + filter use:

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265598-leica-summaron-28-image-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4462835

 

 

 

Thanks for this and unfortunately it doesn't really work with the OLLUX hood so your options everyone are as my notes above in the thread, plus you can use an E46 pinch cap with a filter on and the vented hood attached. Equally the Leica E46 standard lens cap works (if you have a spare knocking around) if you're using a filter as the supplied cap won't work in this configuration but of course this does'nt work with either hood and you'll need a different cap in a 'pinch style' with the hoods in place.

[Fred Miranda]

4 minutes ago, SJH said:

Thanks for this and unfortunately it doesn't really work with the OLLUX hood so your options everyone are as my notes above in the thread, plus you can use an E46 pinch cap with a filter on and the vented hood attached. Equally the Leica E46 standard lens cap works (if you have a spare knocking around) if you're using a filter as the supplied cap won't work in this configuration but of course this does'nt work with either hood and you'll need a different cap in a 'pinch style' with the hoods in place.

Yes, I tried that as well and as you reported, it does not work. The OLLUX's diameter is not large enough to allow a filter to be dropped and reach the threads. The filter gets stuck before getting there...

It looks like Leica design both hoods to be used without a filter. Even with the round one, if one screws the hood to a filter, it will  increase vignetting (hard vignetting depending on the filter thickness).

[28framelines]

4 hours ago, Fred Miranda said:

Yes, I tried that as well and as you reported, it does not work. The OLLUX's diameter is not large enough to allow a filter to be dropped and reach the threads. The filter gets stuck before getting there...

It looks like Leica design both hoods to be used without a filter. Even with the round one, if one screws the hood to a filter, it will  increase vignetting (hard vignetting depending on the filter thickness).

Given you’re the grand Leica M lens tester of our time, could you test the vignetting on the lens with the filter on the vented hood vs a filter with no hood at all?

[Fred Miranda]

1 hour ago, 28framelines said:

Given you’re the grand Leica M lens tester of our time, could you test the vignetting on the lens with the filter on the vented hood vs a filter with no hood at all?

I've tested this a couple days ago: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/3#16087546

[28framelines]

14 hours ago, Fred Miranda said:

I've tested this a couple days ago: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/3#16087546

Huh, very interesting. It seems somewhat… annoying that this is the case. I know a lot of people opt out of lens filters, but they’re so commonplace this seems so strange that the lens vignettes so heavily with one, PLUS the hoods don’t seem to really encourage people to use them. I was so excited about this lens and have been considering selling my 28 Elmarit to buy it, but maybe I’ll hold on to what I have? I guess I could simply not use a lens hood, but that seems a little pointless; the one lens that comes with not one but TWO lens hoods and I want to use neither haha.

[shirubadanieru]

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6 hours ago, 28framelines said:

Huh, very interesting. It seems somewhat… annoying that this is the case. I know a lot of people opt out of lens filters, but they’re so commonplace this seems so strange that the lens vignettes so heavily with one, PLUS the hoods don’t seem to really encourage people to use them. I was so excited about this lens and have been considering selling my 28 Elmarit to buy it, but maybe I’ll hold on to what I have? I guess I could simply not use a lens hood, but that seems a little pointless; the one lens that comes with not one but TWO lens hoods and I want to use neither haha.

It’s interesting because the v1 lux allowed for e41 filters and the use of hood (ollux). So they changed it to e46 to make the situation worse?? Weird…

[Fred Miranda]

1 hour ago, shirubadanieru said:

It’s interesting because the v1 lux allowed for e41 filters and the use of hood (ollux). So they changed it to e46 to make the situation worse?? Weird…

Yes, unfortunately the new "OLLUX" does not allow filters.

With the rounded hood version (12486), one would need a super slim filter to avoid vignetting. Thinner than the B+W slim version.

[egrossman]

I would love to see a sample portrait comparison with the new steel rim vs a late production model of the v2 (which I have).

Thanks,

Erik

 

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On 11/9/2022 at 10:49 AM, Fred Miranda said:

With the rounded hood version (12486), one would need a super slim filter to avoid vignetting. Thinner than the B+W slim version.

Thats a bit annoying to be honest. I would have preferred a slightly shorter lens hood. 

[thatkatmat]

22 hours ago, egrossman said:

I would love to see a sample portrait comparison with the new steel rim vs a late production model of the v2 (which I have).

Thanks,

Erik

 

I have a late model 1992 German v2 and just got the SR. I was thinking of doing some side by sides, if I do, I'll post them here. I haven't had the chance to shoot the SR much yet. But the 1992 is my favorite overall lens. I can say the glow is different, the way it handles light (in bokeh) at night is WAY different. To be honest, so far, of the portraits I've shot, I prefer less contrast from my 1992, but....I'm very partial to that lens and I haven't had but a few clicks with the SR. 

I'll leave it on the m10r for a few weeks and get to know it better.. Definitely looks sexy on my silver m10r. I use the round hood and Fuji makes a 43mm pinch cap the fits inside the hood perfectly ( I use the same one on my summilux 50mm e43 and hood) mine gets a little stiffer near infinity and the aperture ring doesn't feel as "tight" as my other new Leica M glass. But, it doesn't feel bad (I find the tabs easier to find while shooting) and the focus tab is mostly smooth and I imagine it will get smoother with time. My v2 is like butter. 

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24 minutes ago, thatkatmat said:

I have a late model 1992 German v2 and just got the SR. I was thinking of doing some side by sides, if I do, I'll post them here. I haven't had the chance to shoot the SR much yet. But the 1992 is my favorite overall lens. I can say the glow is different, the way it handles light (in bokeh) at night is WAY different. To be honest, so far, of the portraits I've shot, I prefer less contrast from my 1992, but....I'm very partial to that lens and I haven't had but a few clicks with the SR. 

I'll leave it on the m10r for a few weeks and get to know it better.. Definitely looks sexy on my silver m10r. I use the round hood and Fuji makes a 43mm pinch cap the fits inside the hood perfectly ( I use the same one on my summilux 50mm e43 and hood) mine gets a little stiffer near infinity and the aperture ring doesn't feel as "tight" as my other new Leica M glass. But, it doesn't feel bad (I find the tabs easier to find while shooting) and the focus tab is mostly smooth and I imagine it will get smoother with time. My v2 is like butter. 

Regarding focus ring and aperture, mine feels the same. I was worried, if it was my copy, but several reports now seem to indicate, this is how all the new SR lenses feel. Lovely lens no matter what.

Edited November 11, 2022 by mcpallesen

[Fred Miranda]

1 hour ago, thatkatmat said:

I have a late model 1992 German v2 and just got the SR. I was thinking of doing some side by sides, if I do, I'll post them here. I haven't had the chance to shoot the SR much yet. But the 1992 is my favorite overall lens. I can say the glow is different, the way it handles light (in bokeh) at night is WAY different. To be honest, so far, of the portraits I've shot, I prefer less contrast from my 1992, but....I'm very partial to that lens and I haven't had but a few clicks with the SR. 

I'll leave it on the m10r for a few weeks and get to know it better.. Definitely looks sexy on my silver m10r. I use the round hood and Fuji makes a 43mm pinch cap the fits inside the hood perfectly ( I use the same one on my summilux 50mm e43 and hood) mine gets a little stiffer near infinity and the aperture ring doesn't feel as "tight" as my other new Leica M glass. But, it doesn't feel bad (I find the tabs easier to find while shooting) and the focus tab is mostly smooth and I imagine it will get smoother with time. My v2 is like butter. 

That's my overall impression as well. The reissued SR yields higher contrast which changes the overall rendering. No bad, just different.

Yes, a 43mm pinch-type cap works well with the rounded hood. I use the Voigtlander version. So many reports of the focusing ring being stiffer towards infinity and I think the infinity lock is partially responsible for this. One can feel it engaging when rotating the ring towards the hard stop.

[egrossman]

1 hour ago, mcpallesen said:

Regarding focus ring and aperture, mine feels the same. I was worried, if it was my copy, but several reports now seem to indicate, this is how all the new SR lenses feel. Lovely lens no matter what.

@mcpallesen mine is also a late-German v2 that I acquired last year (I'm on the wait-list from Leica Store Miami for the SR). At the moment I'm enjoying rotating between the v2, the Summicron v4 (which has very similar rendering but closer focusing 🙂) and the 35mm Summilux pre-FLE on my M10D and M10M.

I used to enjoy the 50mm focal length more but these days I'm drawn to 35mm Go figure.

Erik

[darylgo]

Leica released the firmware update for the SR today.   Along with it is a PC firmware update, not a feature I use so it surprised me to see it here, I had always assumed it was available on the M10-P and M10-R.  

My copy of the lens arrived this week, inquiring with Leica LA they have not received any further inventory so I feel lucky.  Some quick images show it to be a higher contrast lens than my v2, making it appear sharper but I don't think it will be significant when I can test them in a more controlled environment.  I put a 46mm Leica UVaII Silver filter on, checked  vignetting and there was none, the filter finish color is slightly different than the body of the lens and very different than the steel rim.  The two hoods are back in the box, the original would be my preference if it was compatible with filter use, in it's place I am using an old, extremely well made Contax GG-1 and it's perfectly fitting Contax GK-54.  Slightly different color but as a whole it looks great.   The disadvantage of the Contax hood is finder blockage, the advantage is no side holes for light to enter.  

I am thinking of selling my copies of the v2 however I will wait and see how the rendering differs, it's difficult to part with such small, beautifully made lenses and they continue to rise in value.  

[Wonzo]

vor 21 Minuten schrieb darylgo:

Leica released the firmware update for the SR today.   Along with it is a PC firmware update, not a feature I use so it surprised me to see it here, I had always assumed it was available on the M10-P and M10-R.  

My copy of the lens arrived this week, inquiring with Leica LA they have not received any further inventory so I feel lucky.  Some quick images show it to be a higher contrast lens than my v2, making it appear sharper but I don't think it will be significant when I can test them in a more controlled environment.  I put a 46mm Leica UVaII Silver filter on, checked  vignetting and there was none, the filter finish color is slightly different than the body of the lens and very different than the steel rim.  The two hoods are back in the box, the original would be my preference if it was compatible with filter use, in it's place I am using an old, extremely well made Contax GG-1 and it's perfectly fitting Contax GK-54.  Slightly different color but as a whole it looks great.   The disadvantage of the Contax hood is finder blockage, the advantage is no side holes for light to enter.  

I am thinking of selling my copies of the v2 however I will wait and see how the rendering differs, it's difficult to part with such small, beautifully made lenses and they continue to rise in value.  

For now I`m also keeping my two old Summiluxes,  a Steel Rim and a V2 Infinity Lock, as they all have different renderings and as you say, it`s hard to part with such small and light lenses. Time will tell, how much I`m still going to use them ….

[darylgo]

15 minutes ago, Wonzo said:

For now I`m also keeping my two old Summiluxes,  a Steel Rim and a V2 Infinity Lock, as they all have different renderings and as you say, it`s hard to part with such small and light lenses. Time will tell, how much I`m still going to use them ….

Despite 35 years of production I don't see availability often.  My second v2 was purchased because it was available at a local store and I could test it prior to purchase.  I've never seen an original Steel Rim online or in a store.  

My guess is these lenses (M) will outlast all other lenses produced today.  Is there a mount older than LTM or M in current production?  

[rtai]

I have a Canadian V2 6 bit coded by DAG as an Asph pre-FLE. I would recoded as the SR if it’s similar enough. 
 

Can someone please please please post the coding for the new SR? Thanks.

[evikne]

18 minutes ago, rtai said:

I have a Canadian V2 6 bit coded by DAG as an Asph pre-FLE. I would recoded as the SR if it’s similar enough. 
 

Can someone please please please post the coding for the new SR? Thanks.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/0#16072535

How did you 6-bit code the Canadian v2? Because it is usually not possible to code.

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Hallo,

Look here: Leica M

[UliWer]

You can choose the coding for the "old" pre-asph Summilux (11869/11870/11860) from the camera's menu.