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I no longer have version 1 for a direct comparison. But yesterday I tried to provoke purple fringing in typical situations (like the radiator grill of a car made of chrome). Purple fringing was there, but less than I would expect from my experience with version 1. But maybe it is imagination.

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Again - I was told by contacts as well that the new lenses are better but that there is a policy in place to say it is the same. If there is a policy in place to protect market value of FLE I for example, or whatever reason, Karbe won't say anything ofc. Also important to note that the optical formula is the same, but the point I heard about is that some elements have improved characteristics - so genuinely a better lens.

Who knows, but wouldn't be surprised if there is a way to interpret this both ways and that people in the know are ok with saying it is the same because maybe it is mostly the same save for some different glass type or sth. I honestly don't know. But the samples provided here indicate the the glass type maybe different of some or one element which might have an impact on dispersion / transmission? Who knows as I am no expert, but I trust my contact.

In any case - I sold the FLE1 due to this as the FLE2 is expected to work better with the M11; the SX50 II hopefully will be an even starker re-design. I sold the SX50 MK I also off to recoup most of the value before the new one comes - I had it for more than 10 years and barely made a loss!

Pictures above underscore that there is a clear reason to get the FLE2 and sell off the FLE1 in my humble opinion.

Damn Leica - the FLE2 seems to be the real thing.

I bet Jono is already making fantastic pics with the SX50 MKII!

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A little bit of competition : Voigltander 35/1.5

https://www-cosina-co-jp.translate.goog/voigtlander/vm-mount/nokton-vintage-line-35mm-f1-5-aspherical/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

"Adopting two double-sided aspherical lenses, it exhibits extremely excellent optical performance from the maximum aperture of F1.5"

Close focus to 0.5m. Same size as 35mm Summicron.

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6 hours ago, FrozenInTime said:

A little bit of competition : Voigltander 35/1.5

https://www-cosina-co-jp.translate.goog/voigtlander/vm-mount/nokton-vintage-line-35mm-f1-5-aspherical/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

"Adopting two double-sided aspherical lenses, it exhibits extremely excellent optical performance from the maximum aperture of F1.5"

Close focus to 0.5m. Same size as 35mm Summicron.

Excited to see this lens. I’m in the market for a 35 Summilux but may try this and save some $ for a 35 APO when I can get one. Crazy?

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7 hours ago, FrozenInTime said:

A little bit of competition : Voigltander 35/1.5

https://www-cosina-co-jp.translate.goog/voigtlander/vm-mount/nokton-vintage-line-35mm-f1-5-aspherical/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

"Adopting two double-sided aspherical lenses, it exhibits extremely excellent optical performance from the maximum aperture of F1.5"

Close focus to 0.5m. Same size as 35mm Summicron.

Thanks for the link, good to see what it looks like and I can't wait to see some reviews on this. I like the aperture scale better than the f2 but really wish they would ditch that chrome ring. If the rendering is nice I may get this in silver (looks better with the shiny hood mount) for another 35mm option.

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9 hours ago, FrozenInTime said:

A little bit of competition : Voigltander 35/1.5

https://www-cosina-co-jp.translate.goog/voigtlander/vm-mount/nokton-vintage-line-35mm-f1-5-aspherical/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

"Adopting two double-sided aspherical lenses, it exhibits extremely excellent optical performance from the maximum aperture of F1.5"

Close focus to 0.5m. Same size as 35mm Summicron.

I was really excited about this until I saw minimum focusing distance of 0.5m. Without a mechanism to tell me I’m past 0.7m, on film this “feature” is the opposite of one 😕

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Just received mine and a few test images - 1 at .7 and the other at close focus. Also tested on the SL2 with Hawks factory close focus adapter for m-mount will create another post on that one.

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A couple of tests using the Hawk's factory close focus adapter on the SL2 with the new 35mm Summilux. I think I can sell my macro adapter :)

Leica adding the ability to use stabilization without 6bit coded lens in the last firmware update made using the Hawks adapter a great option in low light

Both handheld no tripod

F8, 1/200 and ISO 100 on the outdoor image

F8, 1/20 and ISO 800 on the basket photo

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Here is one of my first shots with the V2 of summilux 35 1,4 on the M11.

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On 10/9/2022 at 12:27 PM, Jeremy Bunting said:

It’s the Leica case and strap in olive. Love the magnetic bottom so I never need to take it off. Could have been cheaper, though. 

Why, yes - of course.  They're made by Leica - they could ALWAYS be cheaper!! 😅

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For those who already received the lens, how long did you guys wait for? 

I ordered mine on Sep 29 and the staff told me the ETA is 2-4 weeks. Since I didn't see any updates so I emailed today and asked if the lens has left Germany, and the staff replied they cannot provide an ETA, and the waiting time could up to months. 

I am so confused as I have an assignment that I would like to take the lens with me in mid November...Can someone advises me please?

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4 hours ago, georgechan said:

For those who already received the lens, how long did you guys wait for? 

I ordered mine on Sep 29 and the staff told me the ETA is 2-4 weeks. Since I didn't see any updates so I emailed today and asked if the lens has left Germany, and the staff replied they cannot provide an ETA, and the waiting time could up to months. 

I am so confused as I have an assignment that I would like to take the lens with me in mid November...Can someone advises me please?

Same boat here minus the assignment pressure.  Inordered mine right away but did so through Adorama NYC.  I'm supposed to be part of the first batch receipients but they give me no eta (becasue Leica is not giving them any eta either.)

I shlild have ordered throguh the Leica store but I don't have any contacts there so I thought Adorama was a better bet.  Not so.

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Update - 

I received this email earlier today and it's really disappointing. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, georgechan said:

Update - 

I received this email earlier today and it's really disappointing. 

 

 

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Wow. That is very disappointing. I am on a few order lists and was considering getting on another pre order list, but now I may just get a V1 for use on my M11. What are you going to do? Refund or find elsewhere?

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1 hour ago, eyeheartny said:

Wow. That is very disappointing. I am on a few order lists and was considering getting on another pre order list, but now I may just get a V1 for use on my M11. What are you going to do? Refund or find elsewhere?

I am going to get myself a second hand voigtlander for now, and probably sell it when I receive the new FLE II.

I bought the FLE 11663 in May and sold the lens immediately after placing my order on the new FLE II. Now I got no 35mm to use. Jokes on me.

I got another email from Leica saying:

1. This is abnormal (exact wording from Sydney leica store)

2. The lens is not discontinued (😅)

3. No more stock until further notice, and this is global (exact wording)

Take these into account if you consider ordering one

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1 minute ago, georgechan said:

I am going to get myself a second hand voigtlander for now, and probably sell it when I receive the new FLE II.

I bought the FLE 11663 in May and sold the lens immediately after placing my order on the new FLE II. Now I got no 35mm to use. Jokes on me.

I got another email from Leica saying:

1. This is abnormal (exact wording from Sydney leica store)

2. The lens is not discontinued (😅)

3. No more stock until further notice, and this is global (exact wording)

Take these into account if you consider ordering one

Good info from Leica and thanks for sharing. I think I may get a 11663 and eventually sell it when the V2 becomes more available or I can get a 35 APO. 
 

Do consider the Voigtlander 35 Ultron. It’s an excellent little lens, super sharp, nice bokeh, colors are super rich. Incredibly small too! Just a gem of a lens. I will keep mine even if I get a 11663, it’s just great. 

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A few lucky (or unlucky i should say) people in Asia were treated to a rude shock when we got our first batch of shipment of this lens.

Yes, this was brand new out of the box, the aperture blades fell out of place and literally death on arrival.

From what I heard, almost 3 out of 4 people whom I know who got the lens early also got this same issue. Needless to say, they all returned the lens to Wetzlar. I wouldn't be surprised if they're now halting shipments of all units to do a proper QC and come up with a fix, because really, this is SUPER ridiculous .

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