New Leica M6 Film Camera

[mshchem]

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34 minutes ago, Huss said:

That is just crazy talk.

Have you heard anything yet about your new M6?

[Herr Barnack]

On 12/23/2022 at 1:40 PM, Huss said:

I hate the gaffer tape look and find it so pretentious, as if that makes any difference.  If anything it attracts more attention.  Why does he have tape?  Is it worth something?

I feel that for some of these people they think it puts them in the 'serious Leica photographer' club.  Unlike the others who are poseurs..

You think using an MA or MP that doesn't have any lettering on it makes it inconspicuous?  Puh-leeeze.

And rant mode off!  Whatever floats your boat.

I have gaffer tape on just one of my Leicas - my Q2. 

I taped over the rain collector holes that Leica installed to compromise the camera's weather sealing.

[charlesphoto99]

2 hours ago, madNbad said:

what about skipping the engraving altogether, pay attention to any assembly or production problems and shipping a camera that doesn't scratch the film?

What, you're supposed to actually put film in it!!? 

[madNbad]

3 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

What, you're supposed to actually put film in it!!? 

When I bought a M6 TTL Millennium in 2012 the only other time it had been out of the box is when KEH checked it out. Apparently, loading film and using it as an actual camera are optional.

[charlesphoto99]

4 minutes ago, madNbad said:

When I bought a M6 TTL Millennium in 2012 the only other time it had been out of the box is when KEH checked it out. Apparently, loading film and using it as an actual camera are optional.

I bought a 'used' M10M last year that had never been out of the box, or registered. The previous owner had bought it, and then promptly stuck it in the closet. I guess those 'users' are out there. For me, it would either be opened in the store or in the car outside.

[madNbad]

30 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

I bought a 'used' M10M last year that had never been out of the box, or registered. The previous owner had bought it, and then promptly stuck it in the closet. I guess those 'users' are out there. For me, it would either be opened in the store or in the car outside.

Fortunately, this is the Leica Users Forum!😉

[Huss]

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4 hours ago, mshchem said:

Have you heard anything yet about your new M6?

Leica received it on the 15th.  Entered it into their system on the 20th. Current status “service order in progress” whatever that means.

[williamj]

When I was just a Leica watcher, and the MP came out without a red dot, I was like what? The M7 still has a dot. Then when you couldn't add the red dot back in the a la carte program I was yelling at my computer at Leica what are you doing. True story.

[Huss]

On 12/24/2022 at 6:19 AM, Herr Barnack said:

For those who haven't yet surrendered to the desire for a copy of the new M6, here's a nice short that may help push you over the edge -

 

Don’t load film the way he does.  Do it per Leica’s instructions.

[madNbad]

21 hours ago, Huss said:

Leica received it on the 15th.  Entered it into their system on the 20th. Current status “service order in progress” whatever that means.

So, this thread should hit a hundred pages by the time it’s back from New Jersey.

[david strachan]

Didn't see the film loading in the clip.

But I have his book

"Tokyo Camera Style"...it's a super book of camera porn, showing the Japanese and their penchant for cameras.

Edited December 25, 2022 by david strachan

[madNbad]

55 minutes ago, david strachan said:

Didn't see the film loading in the clip.

But I have his book

"Tokyo Camera Style"...it's a super book of camera porn, showing the Japanese and their penchant for cameras.

Right after the intro when he's is holding the camera, you can see the baseplate sitting on the table, the back door is open and you can see film in the camera as he works the advance. It's only a few seconds but if's not just dropping the film in and replacing the baseplate.

[Huss]

19 minutes ago, madNbad said:

Right after the intro when he's is holding the camera, you can see the baseplate sitting on the table, the back door is open and you can see film in the camera as he works the advance. It's only a few seconds but if's not just dropping the film in and replacing the baseplate.

Yup, it’s the technique that works until it doesn’t, which then leads to a thread asking if the camera broke.

[logan2z]

22 minutes ago, Huss said:

Yup, it’s the technique that works until it doesn’t, which then leads to a thread asking if the camera broke.

FWIW, I was looking at the M2 manual last night and the section on loading the film says to advance the film with the camera back open in order to ensure that it's engaged with the sprockets, then to close the back and replace the baseplate.  Not sure why the instructions changed for the quick-load system, but maybe it's the case that people are continuing the practice that was specified for the older cameras.  

[RayD28]

I advance one or two frames to make sure the film caught on both the bottom sprockets.   OCD. 🙂

[madNbad]

36 minutes ago, logan2z said:

FWIW, I was looking at the M2 manual last night and the section on loading the film says to advance the film with the camera back open in order to ensure that it's engaged with the sprockets, then to close the back and replace the baseplate.  Not sure why the instructions changed for the quick-load system, but maybe it's the case that people are continuing the practice that was specified for the older cameras.  

The biggest difference is the baseplate is an integral part of the quick loading. The wheel on the baseplate ensures the film is aligned and when viewing the loading through the door, the film can become misaligned. It also wastes more film by fiddling around and not just dropping it in and replacing the baseplate.

When I owned a M2, I would often carry a roll of film with the leader attached to an extra spool. Rewind the film, drop the cassette, pull the spool out of the camera and drop in the prepared spool. Replace the baseplate and wind. I’m convinced that my problems with a Rapid Load kit in the M2 were caused by not simply replacing the baseplate.

Edited December 26, 2022 by madNbad

[logan2z]

45 minutes ago, madNbad said:

The biggest difference is the baseplate is an integral part of the quick loading. The wheel on the baseplate ensures the film is aligned and when viewing the loading through the door, the film can become misaligned.

Ahh, that makes sense.  Thanks for the info.

[Huss]

1 hour ago, logan2z said:

FWIW, I was looking at the M2 manual last night and the section on loading the film says to advance the film with the camera back open in order to ensure that it's engaged with the sprockets, then to close the back and replace the baseplate.  Not sure why the instructions changed for the quick-load system, but maybe it's the case that people are continuing the practice that was specified for the older cameras.  

The quick load system used the tulip thing to engage, and it has a spring mechanism on the opposite side of the tulip.  It is quite different to the M2/M3.

[Huss]

51 minutes ago, RayD28 said:

I advance one or two frames to make sure the film caught on both the bottom sprockets.   OCD. 🙂

That's fine if it is an M1/M2/M3.  With the M4 onwards just follow the directions Leica provides.

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[logan2z]

1 minute ago, Huss said:

The quick load system used the tulip thing to engage, and it has a spring mechanism on the opposite side of the tulip.  It is quite different to the M2/M3.

Right, understood.  I'm just wondering if people are applying what they did for the M2/M3 to cameras with the quick load system and that's where the "bad habits" are coming from.