New Leica M6 Film Camera

[bags27]

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Saw this several other places, and can't believe it's not already posted here. If it is, please excuse the redundancy and mods please combine. 

https://leicarumors.com/2022/08/31/new-leica-film-camera-rumored-to-be-announced-in-october.aspx/

Can I be the first to call this discussion, "The Hunt for Red October"? 😀

[a.noctilux]

Is this M nickname Red October, like Henri, Elliot, etc.?

[Huss]

I'll believe it when I see it.

I'd love for it to be true.  For me the camera that would make most sense is a new CM (aka the improved Minilux).

 

 

[delta100]

So, it seems Leica Rumours have started the rumour again about the demise of the MP film camera.

[logan2z]

It would be nice to see, but I'm not holding my breath.

[a.noctilux]

I trust, this time will be right time.

May I bet that this one is 100% mechanical (or something easy to source locally) so no need to fight or wait for chips availability.

 

M...essiah announcement in October,

only happy few can buy then, delivery to most customers March or April next year.

[250swb]

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If it's a cheap replacement for the MP that is great news because it will increase the resale price of an MP. But why people are gagging for it I don't understand unless it has some sort of revolutionary features that make it better and cheaper than a secondhand M6.

[a.noctilux]

😉

"New" Leica M model always has revolutionary features (sometimes only seen by happy few ) since 1954's M3.

[Huss]

1 hour ago, a.noctilux said:

😉

"New" Leica M model always has revolutionary features (sometimes only seen by happy few ) since 1954's M3.

Leica M5.  

[Herr Barnack]

More fuel for the speculative fires: 

https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/leica-could-announce-new-film-camera-in-october-will-it-be-the-leica-m-e?utm_medium=flipdigest.ad.20220901.carousel&utm_source=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=campaign

Edited September 2, 2022 by Herr Barnack

[roboboss]

Personally I'd like to see a successor to the M7

Keep the MA/MP models around for those that want mechanical, and add back an option for aperture priority, electronic shutter etc

[jukka]

I fear that leica rumours is a click bait  operation. The new cheaper film Leica made no sense whatsoever. 

That said, I do hope a new film body will be released in the near future. This would make sense business wise for Leica and would further support the analogue cause. (They may not agree with me in Leica, though, and think that a modern film m competes with their digital offerings.)

My wish list includes both all mechanical and electronic speeds (and thus aperture priority), the ditching of dx reader, and the new m10/11 viewfinder. 

I’m sitting on the fence regarding a modern shutter system; while faster speeds are welcomed, the cloth is just something that should be there for purely traditional reasons.

Edited September 2, 2022 by jukka

[wattsy]

7 hours ago, 250swb said:

But why people are gagging for it I don't understand

I imagine it's just classic consumerism. People with money looking for something to spend it on.

[madNbad]

How about a reissue of the M4-2? Wouldn’t be too out of line with the MA and they can toss in a red dot for a little extra flash.

[jaapv]

2 hours ago, jukka said:

This would make sense business wise for Leica and would further support the analogue cause.

Sure? How many would they sell? The present film camera production capacity is already severely reduced due to the low demand.

[jukka]

3 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Sure? How many would they sell? The present film camera production capacity is already severely reduced due to the low demand.

Is it? Now, all I have is anecdotal evidence, but it seems to me that there is more demand than supply. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, jukka said:

Is it? Now, all I have is anecdotal evidence, but it seems to me that there is more demand than supply. 

That was also my impression. Do you have this information from Leica, @jaapv?

[madNbad]

1 minute ago, jaapv said:

Sure? How many would they sell? The present film camera production capacity is already severely reduced due to the low demand.

What about new customers who don’t have the ability to trade in to trade up? Low demand is related to the high bar of buying a film body. Not everyone has four or five thousand dollars/ euros or pounds laying around to purchase a MA or MP and considering the least expensive lens, the 28 2.8 Elmarit-M ASPH is nearly three thousand usd, Leica has abandoned the chance to attract many new customers who would love to have a film body. Leica has always been a premium brand but when you drift away from what built that, then there is a problem. Currently, I’m using a M4 that was built in 1967, how many M11s will be around in fifty five years?

[jaapv]

The main competitor is the used market. There are so many film M cameras out there, many in mint condition. Vastly more choice at prices that Leica cannot match for new camera. So they sell very few as is. The days that they produced tens of thousands each year are long gone.

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[jaapv]

48 minutes ago, Studienkamera said:

That was also my impression. Do you have this information from Leica, @jaapv?

Anecdotal evidence usually comes from a small circle of people with similar interest.