Aryel Posted February 16, 2022 Share #21 Posted February 16, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, shirubadanieru said: The rollei is one of the best lenses made for Leica too…love it but unfortunately don’t own it any longer…I use the 50mm frames to shoot a 40mm because I know it gives me a bit more than the frames say but that’s still ok, whereas the opposite (using 35mm frames) can cut some essential things that I was not expecting (and of course I can’t crop them back..but I can always crop unwanted things if needed). I also don’t think there’s a need to get an extra viewfinder for the 40mm frame lines, just using the 35 or 50 is close enough I fully agree about the lens but I don’t really like shooting it with either 35 (for the same reason as you) nor 50 frame lines (find this too far off). I also like using external viewfinders quite a lot actually 😊. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 Hi Aryel, Take a look here 40mm 2.8 Heliar aspherical VM and LTM from Voigtlander. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Alexander-HH Posted February 16, 2022 Share #22 Posted February 16, 2022 vor 20 Stunden schrieb Alexander-HH: *1 The black-finished mount does not recognize the lens when used with a camera equipped with a system that reads the attached lens with a 6-bit code. Set the lens detection to OFF (AUTO for Leica M11) before use." I am still wondering if this means that the mount contact surface is not machined metal, but black painted? This can't be right I hope 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 16, 2022 Share #23 Posted February 16, 2022 vor 2 Minuten schrieb Alexander-HH: but black painted? I suspect it is black anodized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightstreet Posted February 16, 2022 Share #24 Posted February 16, 2022 The faster Nokton Classic 40mm f/1.4 is $400 and is only a tad larger, but somehow this new Heliar has certain appeals, will need to justify forking out $600 for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted February 17, 2022 Share #25 Posted February 17, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 8:39 PM, Danner said: That is pretty cool:-) Yen to dollar price is currently $615 (MSRP). Cosina has become very good at making highly tempting products. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Are they brass barrel? I know the hood made of aluminum if they are, I’m sold! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted February 17, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 7:40 PM, Alexander-HH said: mmhhh ... from the Cosina website 🤔 "For black paint, the mount is finished in black *1 ... *1 The black-finished mount does not recognize the lens when used with a camera equipped with a system that reads the attached lens with a 6-bit code. Set the lens detection to OFF (AUTO for Leica M11) before use." This a bit of a worry: it seems, for perhaps cost, the mount is machined from the body of the lens rather than being a separate part attached to the lens body. A machining operation too take off any anodisation over the 6-bit code reader would perhaps solve the incompatibility. If I were to buy an early production of this lens, the LTM version would be the one to go for to ensure a bright metal mount. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted February 17, 2022 Share #27 Posted February 17, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 7 Stunden schrieb jakontil: Are they brass barrel? Yes. 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboy Posted February 17, 2022 Share #28 Posted February 17, 2022 Its seems they simply rehoused the vm e lens with a helicod... Surprising they went with the ltm than the SL/ TL mount. I would of loved a native SL mount version of this lens. Its always better to have native mount lenses than to put on an adapter. But it makes somewhat sense since its now common to combine modern lenses with film I wished they adapted their 40 f2 for nikon sl mount to Leica. That lens is highly regarded. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted March 22, 2022 Share #29 Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) On 2/17/2022 at 12:32 PM, cboy said: . I would of loved a native SL mount version of this lens. Its always better to have native mount lenses than to put on an adapter. Agree, the two adapters I have, have some play Edited March 22, 2022 by Alberti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted March 24, 2022 Share #30 Posted March 24, 2022 On 2/16/2022 at 3:40 AM, Alexander-HH said: *1 The black-finished mount does not recognize the lens when used with a camera equipped with a system that reads the attached lens with a 6-bit code. Set the lens detection to OFF (AUTO for Leica M11) before use." Don't understand this. Leica 6 bit code is black and white. Newer VM lenses only need black paint in the groove as the bare metal would be considered white. Now I think we need to use white paint for the white areas and leave black as it is. Unless of course there is no groove. Anyway for this lens, I would consider buying the LTM version and use it with a coded 6 bit LTM-M adapter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted March 24, 2022 Share #31 Posted March 24, 2022 vor 39 Minuten schrieb rramesh: Don't understand this. Same here, but I lost interest altogether once I found out the aperture ring rotates with the focus ring 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted March 24, 2022 Share #32 Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Alexander-HH said: Same here, but I lost interest altogether once I found out the aperture ring rotates with the focus ring 🙄 I think you are confusing with the version for the Sony FE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-HH Posted March 24, 2022 Share #33 Posted March 24, 2022 vor 2 Stunden schrieb rramesh: I think you are confusing with the version for the Sony FE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSkjh3VBLFI&t=8626s Presentation at CP+ 2022 --> forward to 2:27:00 in the video 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erato Posted March 31, 2022 Share #34 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Day One Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Voigtlander HELIAR 40mm F2.8 Aspherical VM(Black Paint), M10-P Edited March 31, 2022 by Erato add more photos 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Voigtlander HELIAR 40mm F2.8 Aspherical VM(Black Paint), M10-P ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329825-40mm-28-heliar-aspherical-vm-and-ltm-from-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=4410312'>More sharing options...
Erato Posted March 31, 2022 Share #35 Posted March 31, 2022 Just arrived today. This lens is remarkable and it's a lovely pancake. Voigtländer designed Heliar in 1900. As you can see, the size of this lens is unbelievably tiny nowadays and it is powerful from my first-day impression. FYR -- A Short History of the Heliar Lenses ☚ please tap on it for further reference. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329825-40mm-28-heliar-aspherical-vm-and-ltm-from-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=4410324'>More sharing options...
lct Posted March 31, 2022 Share #36 Posted March 31, 2022 Interesting indeed. My copy for VM-E adapter is very sharp with swirling bokeh. Would you mind to show some out of focus rendering if you have some time? Just curious. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted March 31, 2022 Share #37 Posted March 31, 2022 I'm enjoying the 40mm 2.8 Rollei Sonnar on my M3, and should be getting the new CV any moment now! That one will go with my BP MP. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329825-40mm-28-heliar-aspherical-vm-and-ltm-from-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=4410541'>More sharing options...
105012 Posted March 31, 2022 Share #38 Posted March 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Huss said: I'm enjoying the 40mm 2.8 Rollei Sonnar on my M3, and should be getting the new CV any moment now! That one will go with my BP MP. How do you find the angle of view with the M3 viewfinder? Approximately 55 degrees for a 40mm lens, I think. 35mm is 63 degrees and 50mm about 46 degrees (so 52mm Leica standard should be approximately about 45 degrees). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted March 31, 2022 Share #39 Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, 105012 said: How do you find the angle of view with the M3 viewfinder? Approximately 55 degrees for a 40mm lens, I think. 35mm is 63 degrees and 50mm about 46 degrees (so 52mm Leica standard should be approximately about 45 degrees). No issues. I use the entire VF and that works out fine i.e. outside the frame lines. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted March 31, 2022 Share #40 Posted March 31, 2022 Just showed up, absolutely tiny lens, and the construction is exquisite. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/329825-40mm-28-heliar-aspherical-vm-and-ltm-from-voigtlander/?do=findComment&comment=4410558'>More sharing options...
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