SrMi Posted January 25, 2022 Share #61 Posted January 25, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wonder how Cobalt’s M9/CCD profiles fare on M10 and M11. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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setuporg Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #62 Posted January 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, Artin said: Ahhh I thought this was the M 11 section , what the heck you guys need to go down 3 floors down and have your M9 romance there We got a room just under you and are banging a broom up against the ceiling so you take it easy up there with the new passion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #63 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Artin said: Under my room is the M10 room , then the M240 room , the M9 room is in the basement Lol. So stop playing around in the penthouse Well we kinda all huddled in the M10-R room to hear better. Edited January 25, 2022 by setuporg 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #64 Posted January 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Sailronin said: What was wrong with M9 rendering of red? Sold my M9 after 8 years, should have kept it!!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Better this Red than dead!:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #65 Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 5:32 PM, charlesphoto99 said: I still have mine. More sentimental value than resale, though it does have a replaced sensor. But man it's clunky coming from an M10-R. And that display! May as well have been aa D model all along. But it took some great photographs.With my new in January 2017 M10. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! So this is what the bottom of your M11 will look like. And we’ll just polish our baseplates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted January 25, 2022 Share #66 Posted January 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Artin said: Here you go all the reds and then some Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Arthur, for showing off the M11’s reds you might be better off going outdoors and/or avoiding casts from artificial lights. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwieback Posted January 25, 2022 Share #67 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) what a fantastic idea to suggest the M9! This sums up very much my feelings and impression about Leica and the M11. To me, owning a M camera is all about the experience and feel of using this type of (rangefinder) camera and swapping in a 60MP does not improve any of this. When I heard the first news about the M11 and latest when I saw the pics I knew it was not a camera for me. I even thought about selling my M10 and only to only keep the M9. Anyway, I gave it a try to see if using it would make me change my mind but it did not. The recent developments at Leica are getting me close to break with the company altogether and I still think about selling my Leica digital cameras and to only keep the analoge ones. Leica cannot keep up with the development in the digital camera world and also should not try to do so. Updating the sensor is of corse fin but this should be only a side aspect. In contrast they should focus on improving the M cameras, digital AND analogue, in the domain that makes the camera the camera it is, which is rangefinder, handling, reliability (it would be great if Leica could finally fix the issues with getting out of alignment after 70 years, giving an example) lenses.... Maybe as a sign of frustration I ordered and received already (most of) the complete range of M and nikon lenses from Voigtländer and so far I can only say that Leica will be facing very strong competition on the M terretory. The optical- and also the manufacturing quality of the recently released Voigtländer lenses matches their Leica counterparts or even surpasses them (and I have the compare). Also worth to note is that the complete program range of lenses will cost you only as much as one, single flangship lens from Leica. They are also a very good fit on a M9. On the M9 I also liked the feature of cocking the shutter only after releasing the button. No idea why this was not kept. Sure, the M11 is "technically" the better camera but this is not why I use a M but this is just my own, personal view. Edited January 25, 2022 by zwieback 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WvE Posted January 25, 2022 Share #68 Posted January 25, 2022 Sold it for the M10-P, but miss my M9 ever since, in spite of all its shortcomings (dead on arrival, corroded sensor etc.). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328895-leica-m9-%E2%80%94-your-next-camera/?do=findComment&comment=4367302'>More sharing options...
zwieback Posted January 25, 2022 Share #69 Posted January 25, 2022 bought my M9 with the sensor being replaced after I already had the M10... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted January 25, 2022 Share #70 Posted January 25, 2022 20 hours ago, SrMi said: I like my M9 (still with the original sensor, keeping my fingers crossed), but I am looking for the best rangefinder experience, not the "purest." I don't even know what the purest means in this context. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yudafu2 Posted January 25, 2022 Share #71 Posted January 25, 2022 17 hours ago, charlesphoto99 said: The M9's ability to render reds was unique and quite stunning among cameras, to say the least. Looking at M9 photos always make me wonder why I'm not shooting it still. M10 is just so much more comfortable operationally, alas, and I can get close to the M9 look in post. What I've seen so far of the M11 looks even further away from the M9 than ever before. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! These colors are spectacular. I never seriously shot with the M9 and you make me want one! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 25, 2022 Share #72 Posted January 25, 2022 I am seriously considering the m9. My Leica adventure started with the Q but shortly afterwards followed a m8 and m9m. The Q left (28mm is just too wide for me) and now both m’s are used for b/w. Colour I do with the gfx. However, that one is not for m-lenses, so I really doubt between a sl2(r) and a m. don’t like video, so m240 and family is not needed. LV, not for a rf. So either a 9 or 8 could do for colour work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwieback Posted January 25, 2022 Share #73 Posted January 25, 2022 I wonder if similar to the high MPix count also the high ISO run leads to developments that do not necessarily benefit image quality. I would be happy - as amateur - with an ISO rating of 1600-3200 at maximum. Up to 800 ISO would cover probably >98% of my needs or more, did not check the stats of the pictures taken, just from memory. So for at least 98% of the time I potentially could have an advantage if sensors and software would be optimised for just this range, which could allow alternative technologies to enter the market. Unfortunately also the Foveon sensor in the Sigma cameras seem to have been sacrifised in favour of ISO 100000+. I would have wanted so much that a full frame Foveon sensor would have been in the M11.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 25, 2022 Share #74 Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, zwieback said: I wonder if similar to the high MPix count also the high ISO run leads to developments that do not necessarily benefit image quality. I would be happy - as amateur - with an ISO rating of 1600-3200 at maximum. Up to 800 ISO would cover probably >98% of my needs or more, did not check the stats of the pictures taken, just from memory. So for at least 98% of the time I potentially could have an advantage if sensors and software would be optimised for just this range, which could allow alternative technologies to enter the market. Unfortunately also the Foveon sensor in the Sigma cameras seem to have been sacrifised in favour of ISO 100000+. I would have wanted so much that a full frame Foveon sensor would have been in the M11.... High resolution does not harm image quality. Sometimes it has benefits. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 25, 2022 Share #75 Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said: I am seriously considering the m9. My Leica adventure started with the Q but shortly afterwards followed a m8 and m9m. The Q left (28mm is just too wide for me) and now both m’s are used for b/w. Colour I do with the gfx. However, that one is not for m-lenses, so I really doubt between a sl2(r) and a m. don’t like video, so m240 and family is not needed. LV, not for a rf. So either a 9 or 8 could do for colour work. LV use is not required and it does not get in your way when not needed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted January 26, 2022 Share #76 Posted January 26, 2022 The CCD sensor seems to excel (for me) with soft colours, bordering on pastel. When the sensor wore out, Leica offered a trade-up to SL but I was glad to keep the repaired M9 to pair with my M9M (ended up with an SL anyway, for a different reason). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summilux-M 50 ASPH. 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Summilux-M 50 ASPH. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328895-leica-m9-%E2%80%94-your-next-camera/?do=findComment&comment=4368266'>More sharing options...
Jacobjuul Posted January 26, 2022 Share #77 Posted January 26, 2022 17 hours ago, yudafu2 said: These colors are spectacular. I never seriously shot with the M9 and you make me want one! That doesn't look like it's SOOC. I would think it's either edited or jpeg (I never got colors like that with my M9 dng) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted January 26, 2022 Share #78 Posted January 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jacobjuul said: That doesn't look like it's SOOC. I would think it's either edited or jpeg (I never got colors like that with my M9 dng) Might be lenses? With pretty much every Leica pre asph and Zeiss lens I've used, it's like that every time for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted January 26, 2022 Share #79 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jacobjuul said: That doesn't look like it's SOOC. I would think it's either edited or jpeg (I never got colors like that with my M9 dng) I apply a strong contrast curve in LR, which is something most people should be doing imo to all digital M files (rarely is sooc perfect unless the image is supposed to be flat). Otherwise nothing done with the color, and AWB actually. Lenses used were 28 Summicron and 50 Summilux pre-asph. Edited January 26, 2022 by charlesphoto99 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacobjuul Posted January 26, 2022 Share #80 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Ray Vonn said: Might be lenses? With pretty much every Leica pre asph and Zeiss lens I've used, it's like that every time for me. Might also just be difference in light. I live in Denmark and we don't have much of it (window light or otherwise) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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