lct Posted January 23, 2022 Share #61 Posted January 23, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, tashley said: That's quite impressive! I don't mind a bit of noise so I would go for a tad more sharpening and a touch less NR personally but that really is pretty darned good! One thing to bear in mind: these files are aggressively exposed 'to the right' to the extent of showing a little clipping in places. I did this in order to compare DR across the different resolutions per ISO so I actively wanted a little clipping. As a side effect, you might argue that a file exposed with +2 1/3rd stop at 50,000 is actually exposed at around 9,000-10,000.... Indeed . Possible to get a bit less brightness and/or a bit more shadows? Thank you very much again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 Hi lct, Take a look here The M11 Raw files access thread. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
AZN Posted January 24, 2022 Share #62 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, tashley said: I look forward to anyone who looks through them Outstanding @tashley – thanks for all your effort! Will have a look at some pixel-binned samples right now… [20 minutes later…] Have had a chance to put the 64, 400 and 800 ISO pixel-binned 36MP images through my workflow (Adobe DNG converter/ C1 v22). Used the "Leica M10R ProStandard" ICC Profile and "Film Standard" curve in C1. Then tuned the C1 exposure, levels, clarity, NR etc. to taste. Goes to show how much sensor/ software development has come on in the last few years. To my eyes the 400 and 800 ISO files are interchangeable – no difference in grain or dynamic range (!) As expected the base-ISO 64 images were slightly better, but you really have to nitpick to notice. The 64s were a tiny bit more magenta in the shadows, but this was easy to tweak. So looks like the 36MP option lives up to the hype. DNG file sizes end up being @ 40 Mbytes and 7416 x 4928 pixels. Definitely the "sweet spot" I had hoped. IMO Leica are onto a winner here! Just need to wait a few months for the early-adopter v1.0 snafus to be sorted out (erratic function buttons, "dead battery" issues etc.)… Again, thanks so much for your effort. Why Leica or the online shills reviewers couldn't do this is interesting… Edited January 24, 2022 by AZN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 24, 2022 Share #63 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) He is walking around shooting his estate and grounds. Right Sir Ashley? Edited January 24, 2022 by algrove 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Journey Posted January 24, 2022 Share #64 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) I'll contribute a few photos. Still learning to shoot manual with the rangefinder. Photos were underexposed so you can see how malleable the files are when pushing exposure in post. 35m apo, f 8, ISO 64, 1/350 shutter speed. Focus was the LCD screen in the middle of the Ferris Wheel. The sun was behind the tree. Download the raw DNG here (60mpx) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dkl1v8KEQkMW04u10Hnku8jpgUQi9F_i/view?usp=sharing Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 24, 2022 by M Journey 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328894-the-m11-raw-files-access-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4366156'>More sharing options...
M Journey Posted January 24, 2022 Share #65 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 35 m apo, f/5.6, ISO 64, 1/125 shutter speed. Focus was on the horse's face. I tried to expose to keep it similar to what my eyes saw. Sadly I left WB on Auto... Download the raw DNG here (60mpx) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PpRK9BA7cdrYgN7JV_quek1O12oym0Kn/view?usp=sharing Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 24, 2022 by M Journey 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328894-the-m11-raw-files-access-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4366161'>More sharing options...
M Journey Posted January 24, 2022 Share #66 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 35m apo, f/(between 8 and 11), ISO 64, 1/160 shutter speed. I tried to expose to keep it similar to what my eyes saw. Sadly I left WB on Auto... Focus is on the letters in the sign Download the full size DNG (60mpx) here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gZFZ0rkCRazWrlXayaxKx4EHMDxrwYlF/view?usp=sharing Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 24, 2022 by M Journey 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328894-the-m11-raw-files-access-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4366165'>More sharing options...
graphlex Posted January 24, 2022 Share #67 Posted January 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/22/2022 at 11:58 AM, tashley said: ISO 400 RAW Link Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Getting this much detail and gradation in flat light is much harder than it looks. Joel Sternfeld used a view camera for this in “Oxbow Grossing”. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share #68 Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, graphlex said: Getting this much detail and gradation in flat light is much harder than it looks. Joel Sternfeld used a view camera for this in “Oxbow Grossing”. Thank you! I got lucky with the placement of DOF here! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share #69 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, algrove said: He is walking around shooting his estate and grounds. Right Sir Ashley? Zounds, ye blagard! How dareth ye giveth me away? ps it would be Sir Tim. If that were ever to happen. Which it so so so never will. Edited January 24, 2022 by tashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted January 24, 2022 Share #70 Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, tashley said: Zounds, ye blagard! How dareth ye giveth me away? ps it would be Sir Tim. If that were ever to happen. Which it so so so never will. Hear ye, hear ye, Sir Tim deserves a big round of applause for his excellent work. Nice digs I say. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted January 25, 2022 Share #71 Posted January 25, 2022 From the pictures taken with the 35mm Summilux ASPH in post #30 (L1000283.dng) and post #26 (L1000255.dng) it is clear that there is a tendency towards purple visible in the sky on both top lef and top right sides; left side seems a little bit stronger. Certainly not better compared how the M10 deals with that (with my copy of the 35FLE). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #72 Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Edax said: From the pictures taken with the 35mm Summilux ASPH in post #30 (L1000283.dng) and post #26 (L1000255.dng) it is clear that there is a tendency towards purple visible in the sky on both top lef and top right sides; left side seems a little bit stronger. Certainly not better compared how the M10 deals with that (with my copy of the 35FLE). I agree - and there's something not quite right with #31 too... I was hoping someone else other than me would notice this. It may be because lens corrections are not yet supported in LR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 25, 2022 Share #73 Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Edax said: From the pictures taken with the 35mm Summilux ASPH in post #30 (L1000283.dng) and post #26 (L1000255.dng) it is clear that there is a tendency towards purple visible in the sky on both top lef and top right sides; left side seems a little bit stronger. Certainly not better compared how the M10 deals with that (with my copy of the 35FLE). Not for me. If you want to be sure push red and magenta saturation and see what happens... nothing in the sky for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 25, 2022 Share #74 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) This blog includes a link to download DNG files: https://www.adaminsights.com/leica-m11-dynamic-range-test/ Edit - from the first DNG in the link, this camera is FF color perfection. Edited January 25, 2022 by Chaemono 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 26, 2022 Share #75 Posted January 26, 2022 More DNGs available for download here: https://www.adaminsights.com/leica-m11-high-iso-noise-tests/#google_vignette No detail lost between ISO 64 - ISO 800, he's saying. For a camera with no IBIS that's really important IMO. I used Topaz DeNoise AI on an ISO 800 file in the link in #74 to get rid of noise that was visible when zooming in and it looked really good. An interesting question would be if color and detail at ISO 800 for the M11 can match ISO 64 on the Z7. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share #76 Posted January 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, Chaemono said: More DNGs available for download here: https://www.adaminsights.com/leica-m11-high-iso-noise-tests/#google_vignette No detail lost between ISO 64 - ISO 800, he's saying. For a camera with no IBIS that's really important IMO. I used Topaz DeNoise AI on an ISO 800 file in the link in #74 to get rid of noise that was visible when zooming in and it looked really good. An interesting question would be if color and detail at ISO 800 for the M11 can match ISO 64 on the Z7. I have a Z7 to hand.... don't tempt me or I'll really start to get my peep on.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 26, 2022 Share #77 Posted January 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, Chaemono said: More DNGs available for download here: https://www.adaminsights.com/leica-m11-high-iso-noise-tests/#google_vignette No detail lost between ISO 64 - ISO 800, he's saying. For a camera with no IBIS that's really important IMO. I used Topaz DeNoise AI on an ISO 800 file in the link in #74 to get rid of noise that was visible when zooming in and it looked really good. An interesting question would be if color and detail at ISO 800 for the M11 can match ISO 64 on the Z7. I really doubt that M11's ISO 800 shot can match Z 7's ISO 64, and vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted January 26, 2022 Share #78 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) vor 6 Minuten schrieb SrMi: I really doubt that M11's ISO 800 shot can match Z 7's ISO 64, and vice versa. As long as it doesn’t lose detail and color, putting a file processed in LR first through Topaz Denoise AI produces a very clean and detailed picture. Edited January 26, 2022 by Chaemono Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 26, 2022 Share #79 Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chaemono said: As long as it doesn’t lose detail and color, putting a file processed in LR first through Topaz Denoise AI produces a very clean and detailed picture. Detail is always lost with more noise. Denoising programs can hide some noise and reconstruct some lost detail. The success varies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 26, 2022 Share #80 Posted January 26, 2022 How is it that this 12500 iso pic looks so noisy then? Just curious but my old Sonys do much better than that. https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/5740841570/leica-m11-pre-production-sample-gallery-dpreview-tv/0196737996 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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