jonnyboy Posted January 19, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sony colors? 😞 Really? Sony is infamous for crap colors!😞 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Hi jonnyboy, Take a look here A running tally of M11 complaints so far. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
SrMi Posted January 19, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, jonnyboy said: Sony colors? 😞 Really? Sony is infamous for crap colors!😞 That is why it is in the list of complaints :). Because of a rumored Sony sensor, some forum members expect to see Sony colors. That is nonsense, IMO. Edited January 19, 2022 by SrMi 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 19, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, setuporg said: So, if you peruse the new sub forum thoroughly, you can see complaints about: annoying always-on live view shutter mode shutter noise, clunk upon turning on shutter open all the time gathering dust function buttons failing intermittently camera freezing without a clue as to why the thin sensor still not helping with wide lenses in the corners Sony colors confusing EVF display implementation Maybe we should group the complaints into those coming from people who own an M11 and those who don't own an M11 + Oswalt, who is quite an outlier ;-). 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted January 19, 2022 Share #24 Posted January 19, 2022 vor 4 Stunden schrieb Matlock: In the UK a Leica M4 cost £336 in 1971 (Wallace Heaton Blue Book). With inflation that would be £5,060 today. That makes the M11 at £7,500 look like a bargain. Let' s see for what price you can sell your M11 in 50 years and how long it will work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onasj Posted January 19, 2022 Share #25 Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Dr. G said: Not specifically M11 related, but there is a rumor that a Q3 may be on the horizon - possibly with the M11 sensor. Once of the reasons I moved away from Sony was because the colors took a long time to correct in post. I have had no issues with my Leicas in that regard. Can someone who owns the M11 comment on the color science? I was looking to get my name on a list for the Q3, but would reconsider if the colors aren't in line with the more recent Leica cameras. As an M10-P and M10-R and Sony a1 and a7r4 user, I consider the M11 to have the best overall color straight from a RAW conversion in Photoshop of all five of these cameras, especially at higher ISO values. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 19, 2022 Share #26 Posted January 19, 2022 My list so far: 1) An auto ISO shutter speed minimum of 1/(3f) is needed. 2f is too slow and 4f is overkill and drives ISO higher than it need be. 2) The camera doesn’t connect to Fotos on iPad even with a USB3 Thunderbolt - and the WiFi is too slow for other than a handful of shots 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, tashley said: My list so far: 1) An auto ISO shutter speed minimum of 1/(3f) is needed. 2f is too slow and 4f is overkill and drives ISO higher than it need be. 2) The camera doesn’t connect to Fotos on iPad even with a USB3 Thunderbolt - and the WiFi is too slow for other than a handful of shots In my tests wifi is 2X faster than USB-C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 19, 2022 Share #28 Posted January 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, digitalfx said: In my tests wifi is 2X faster than USB-C If I use a USBC card reader on my iPad and put the SD card from the camera into it, it is literally many, many, many times faster than the Wi-Fi. It can eat a hundred shots in no time at all whereas with WiFi I’d pretty much have time to heat the water for a bath, have the bath and clean the bath…. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted January 19, 2022 Share #29 Posted January 19, 2022 One more thing: this is probably a Lightroom thing, but Lens Corrections don’t work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted January 19, 2022 Share #30 Posted January 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, onasj said: As an M10-P and M10-R and Sony a1 and a7r4 user, I consider the M11 to have the best overall color straight from a RAW conversion in Photoshop of all five of these cameras, especially at higher ISO values. This is good news. The colors from my SL2-S are fantastic at high ISO and I'm curious to see how the new M11 sensor compares. I found the a7r iv colors needed some tweaking and my a1 is slightly better. My Q2M colors are really easy to work with 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2022 Share #31 Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Dr. G said: Can someone who owns the M11 comment on the color science? I was looking to get my name on a list for the Q3, but would reconsider if the colors aren't in line with the more recent Leica cameras. https://www.reidreviews.com/ Everything you want to know for a small fee... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2022 Share #32 Posted January 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, tashley said: If I use a USBC card reader on my iPad and put the SD card from the camera into it, it is literally many, many, many times faster than the Wi-Fi. It can eat a hundred shots in no time at all whereas with WiFi I’d pretty much have time to heat the water for a bath, have the bath and clean the bath…. yes card reader is fastest. I thought you meant USB-C from camera to device (PC, iPad, etc)...for some reason its slower than wifi. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 19, 2022 Share #33 Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, digitalfx said: yes card reader is fastest. I thought you meant USB-C from camera to device (PC, iPad, etc)...for some reason its slower than wifi. There is no Wifi transfer to PC, AFAIK. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2022 Share #34 Posted January 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, SrMi said: There is no Wifi transfer to PC, AFAIK. correct, thats why I thought he meant usb-c to your device as wifi only works on iPhone or iPad. Regardless usb-c to from M11 to your PC (or iPad) should be far faster...ideally as fast as using a usb-c card reader. Otherwise its value is very limited. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 19, 2022 Share #35 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, digitalfx said: In my tests wifi is 2X faster than USB-C try it again with a USB-C 3.1 cable, it will copy faster then any wifi can do. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2022 Share #36 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Photoworks said: try it again with a USB-C 3.1 cable, it will copy faster then any wifi can do. Theoretically yes...but have you actually experienced this? I was using a Thunderbolt 3 cable 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2022 Share #37 Posted January 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Photoworks said: try it again with a USB-C 3.1 cable, it will copy faster then any wifi can do. wow, now we are talking. 3.2 cable smokes. Odd that a TB-3 or TB-4 cable would be slower 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 19, 2022 Share #38 Posted January 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, digitalfx said: wow, now we are talking. 3.2 cable smokes. Odd that a TB-3 or TB-4 cable would be slower What are you guys comparing? Wifi to iPhone vs cable to PC? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarosuav Posted January 19, 2022 Share #39 Posted January 19, 2022 I’m still waiting for my pre-order to show up, so no complaints from me! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted January 19, 2022 Share #40 Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yarosuav said: I’m still waiting for my pre-order to show up, so no complaints from me! thats my complaint i'm still waiting And half cases are all sold out 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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