kivis Posted January 14, 2022 Share #1 Posted January 14, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have two "ancient" Leica M-P 240's that I use for all my professional work, commercial, weddings, etc. The M11 looks great but my rigs are doing just fine. In any case the M Mount Lenses are the real stars, both Leica and Voigtlander brands. (I might change my tune when a used M11 gets down under $4000) 🥵 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 Hi kivis, Take a look here My M-P 240 response to the new M11.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
barcoimage Posted January 14, 2022 Share #2 Posted January 14, 2022 Agreed! I have the multifunction grip for my 240 that works like a champ for tethered shooting. The images I get are still incredibly impressive for such a technology ancient camera! Once prices drop for the M11 …who knows..maybe! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted January 14, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 14, 2022 Same here. The kid in me wants a new toy but the old guy in me asks if my photos are going to be that much better. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangeman133 Posted January 15, 2022 Share #4 Posted January 15, 2022 As a recent m240 user, I have to agree. Before upgrading to an m10 or m11, my next step would be to upgrade my lenses first. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGarrard Posted January 16, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 16, 2022 Just took mine out today. Happy as a clam. Adapted lenses, no problem. Shoot like a traditional M (using classic metering) no problem. Shoot like a mirrorless camera with an evf, no problem. It's versatile, beautiful, and modern "enough" by all standards. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328493-my-m-p-240-response-to-the-new-m11/?do=findComment&comment=4357431'>More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted January 17, 2022 Share #6 Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) What I have learned, from reading the various M11 reviews and reports, is that I have a renewed interest in the APO Summicron-M 35mm ASPH. If suddenly gifted/blessed with the cash to acquire an M11, I would rather buy the lens. A 35mm lens, with close-focus capability, is something that I learned to like, when i was using DSLRs. I want the M11 to do well, because I want Leica to thrive, but nothing about the M11 is stirring any urges to acquire another camera body. Actually, I am a bit out of place, in this section of the forum, as I started Leica shooting with an M10, and then added an M Type 246 Monochrom, but I do read this part of the forum, as the 246 shares parts, accessories, and handling characteristics with the 240 and 262. (Now that “handling characteristics” has been mentioned, well, the slimness of the M10 is a bit overrated, in my opinion.) Edited January 17, 2022 by RexGig0 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted January 17, 2022 Share #7 Posted January 17, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Happy MP240 shooter here as well. I sometimes wish of better EVF or better high ISO but in the end the price tag of a newer Leica puts my problems in their place. I love my 240! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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martinot Posted January 21, 2022 Share #9 Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) I was never very tempted to upgrade to M10 due to smaller and poorer battery compared to the M-240, but have always whished for better DR (I do not care at all for higher resoltion as 24 is more than I need). With the M11 I can get better DR without sacrifising battery life. So I see the M11 as a great future upgrade path coming from M240. That said I will probably wait some years, and to see what M11P brings, and happy to continue with my M-E 240 until that time. I am very glad that Leica have released the M11, but no stress or hurry for me personally to upgrade. Edited January 21, 2022 by martinot Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted January 21, 2022 Share #10 Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) +1 24MP is enough for me and post-processing options are now computationally extending the "envelope". Still using the IMHO robust/big battery M240 platform - M240-P + Edition 60 x2 - (but actually reverted from M246 back to the "grainy" 18 MP M9M). I shoot at low ISO and don't print large - the two areas newer cameras seem to always target through higher ISO sensitivity and increased MP. I personally think the M11 is a much better upgrade path from the M240 series than the M10 series (though if there had been a M10-RP in silver chrome I might have been tempted) but once there is an M11-P version I might well jump... Edited January 21, 2022 by NigelG 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeeper Posted January 22, 2022 Share #11 Posted January 22, 2022 I just took my 240 to the Leica Store LA and played with an M11 and M10R for the first time. My big test was: How much better is their dynamic range? So I shot the front corner of the store - half sun spilled windows, half interior book display. I exposed one stop over what AE put me at to make sure to clip the sunlit highlights. I made each exposure at the camera's native ISO: 200 for M240, 100 for M10R, 64 for M11. When I pulled them into Lightroom, I worked with the M11 (at 36mp max dynamic range mode) first. It was amazing the detail I could pull back out of the blown out highlights. Pretty much everything. Next, the M10R. Again, by lowering the exposure slider as well as "whites" and "Highlights" and then boosting the shadows and bringing down the blacks, I recovered almost all of the highlights. Finally, I looked at the 240 file and dreaded how it would fall apart. Basically, I GOT BACK EVERYTHING IN THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT I COULD WITH THE OTHER TWO CAMERAS. I'm sure I can't dig detail from the shadows as well, but highlight recovery was right up there. I'm in the same boat of probably getting a used M11 when it hits $4K, but I am in no rush to get rid of my M240. It's great. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted January 22, 2022 Share #12 Posted January 22, 2022 Interesting, yeeper. I just finished two print jobs based on M240 shots. 60 prints 60 cm wide. The big issue is getting the exposure right, and having the best lenses but I learned the trick, and LR helps a lot in getting Results. With a capital. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d30gaijin Posted January 23, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 7:53 AM, kivis said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Beautiful group shot of some nice young ladies but the young lady on the left in the photo doesn't need to stand on her tip-toes. She already towers over the others. LOL. Anyway, great shot! Doubt that it would have been any better taken with an M11. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d30gaijin Posted January 23, 2022 Share #14 Posted January 23, 2022 I would be lying if I said I am not "Jonesing" over the intro of the new M11. It seems such an incredible camera. Oh yes I would love to have one but alas, not in my budget in anything approaching the near (or even distant) future. So I will make do with my M Type 262. A camera certainly far more capable than my photography skills. But I applaud anyone that can afford such a beautiful piece of Leica kit and look forward to seeing their M11 photos. Pretty sure such photos will inspire me to do better with what I have. Don 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 24, 2022 Share #15 Posted January 24, 2022 My eight year old M240 has not had a lot of use over the last two years due to my M10M's bewitching powers. Anyway, the other week we actually had some sunny weather so I dusted it off, fitted my 1967 35mm Summaron f2.8 and ventured forth to a local lake. Good to remind myself just how good the M240 is! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328493-my-m-p-240-response-to-the-new-m11/?do=findComment&comment=4366552'>More sharing options...
lct Posted January 26, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 26, 2022 Only issues are noise over 3200 isos and sluggish EVF on my M240 but i have EVILs for that and for the RF experience i stuggle to see the point of a 60MP camera. I forgot italian flag on some difficult wides but my EVILs can manage that too. I may end up buying the M11 but it would be out of curiosity only. Not that reasonable my wife would say... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted January 27, 2022 Share #17 Posted January 27, 2022 M11? What's that, a new underground line? I'll stick with my M240. In the case, my money goes for some new lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 27, 2022 Share #18 Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, epand56 said: M11? What's that, a new underground line? Sacrilegio Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted February 11, 2022 Share #19 Posted February 11, 2022 Just a picture to show off the terrific shadow recovery of the M240. In the M11 world everyone is happy about the highlight recovery, for me the shadows are more important 😚 Original severely underexposed . . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! And what auto-exposure in Lightroom can do: And you can also admire the colours that are due of the quality of the sensor, based on the Leica S family. Remarkable . . . Even after so many years. It still stands up. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! And what auto-exposure in Lightroom can do: And you can also admire the colours that are due of the quality of the sensor, based on the Leica S family. Remarkable . . . Even after so many years. It still stands up. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/328493-my-m-p-240-response-to-the-new-m11/?do=findComment&comment=4381152'>More sharing options...
marchyman Posted February 11, 2022 Share #20 Posted February 11, 2022 Did you tweek any controls after hitting the auto button in the Tone panel? I find that Lighroom auto often results in an HDR-like look that I don't like. I still sometimes use the auto function as a starting point for my edits, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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