Leica SL2 Firmware 3.0 officially released

[hillavoider]

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4 minutes ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

Leica have publicly stated it’s eye AF but they don’t show a cross to keep the VF clean and uncluttered. I’ve had very high near eye accuracy in AFS. It’s quite easy to find Leica’s comments if you do a search.

Gordon

you believe that?

belief is not proof

Edited October 5, 2021 by hillavoider

[caissa]

If iAF or eye AF, who cares ? Is it worth to discuss this marketing stuff ?

I am glad that it works now very well. And others agree. For example Fred Miranda who has tested it and posted portraits of his daughter. He even said 100% hit rate.

[hillavoider]

13 minutes ago, caissa said:

If iAF or eye AF, who cares ? Is it worth to discuss this marketing stuff ?

I am glad that it works now very well. And others agree. For example Fred Miranda who has tested it and posted portraits of his daughter. He even said 100% hit rate.

the face auto focus works very well, but its not always the closest eye, or even the eye its the nose, and its not just marketing its a question of fraudulent marketing, does it actually have eye auto focus, its that simple

[caissa]

You have problems ...

I am glad that 100% is good enough for me. 🤔🤧😷.   For AF in the SL2 !!!     (The camera with the world wide worst AF ...)

Edited October 5, 2021 by caissa

[Simone_DF]

2 hours ago, hillavoider said:

the face auto focus works very well, but its not always the closest eye, or even the eye its the nose, and its not just marketing

But that happens with all cameras. I got the same with the A7III, while the accuracy is very high, there's the occasional missfocus where the nose/cheeck is in focus instead of the eye.

You'll never get 100% accuracy with any camera, there's always a margin of error, and that won't change.

[Speeding]

5 hours ago, hillavoider said:

Maybe you are lucky as it’ll face detect just fine now thankfully, but either eye could be in focus or the nose. The only l mount Leica lens I have left is the 35 SL and at f2 a good part of the face is in focus but it’s random, it’s nose, eyes, mouth. You can’t just believe in fairytales cos you want to or because ya spent soooo much on this donkey you want it to be a stallion 

I shoot portraits with the SL 90 at f/2 and the camera has no problem focusing on the nearest eye with iAF mode.  Same with the 70-200 f/2.8.    This was the case before FW 3.0 as well.  Now it seems to make quicker adjustment when someone is walking toward the camera for example.

[LocalHero1953]

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For me also the SL2-S does have eye-detect.
I'm getting tired of finding threads I'm interested in getting hijacked by someone who only posts about one thing.
Fortunately this forum has an ignore function. Time to activate it.

[FrankX]

I can confirm Eye AF, too! It’s even more reliable after the firmware update. 

[hillavoider]

so let me get this straight. Leica wont change the yellow box covering the face into a tiny box or cross on the eye in focus because the yellow box covering the face offers a cleaner screen..... 🙄

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by hillavoider

[hillavoider]

5 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

For me also the SL2-S does have eye-detect.
I'm getting tired of finding threads I'm interested in getting hijacked by someone who only posts about one thing.
Fortunately this forum has an ignore function. Time to activate it.

SL2-S is a different camera with much better focusing 

[BernardC]

8 minutes ago, hillavoider said:

so let me get this straight. Leica wont change the yellow box covering the face into a tiny box or cross on the eye in focus because the yellow box covering the face offers a cleaner screen..... 🙄

 

Makes sense. Some cameras make it hard to see your frame behind all the informative overlays. 

Maybe they can add a Vegas mode in the next firmware, with neons and blinky lights. It wouldn't affect the images, but it would draw your attention to what the camera is up-to! 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

16 minutes ago, hillavoider said:

SL2-S is a different camera with much better focusing 

Not since 3.0 it isn’t.

Gordon

[hillavoider]

20 minutes ago, FlashGordonPhotography said:

Not since 3.0 it isn’t.

Gordon

doesn't the panasonic version have a cross on the eye? i was hoping for that 

Edited October 5, 2021 by hillavoider

[hillavoider]

20 minutes ago, BernardC said:

Makes sense. Some cameras make it hard to see your frame behind all the informative overlays. 

Maybe they can add a Vegas mode in the next firmware, with neons and blinky lights. It wouldn't affect the images, but it would draw your attention to what the camera is up-to! 

isn't a tiny box on the eye smaller then a big yellow box over the face? 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

5 minutes ago, hillavoider said:

isn't a tiny box on the eye smaller then a big yellow box over the face? 

Don’t disagree with you there. That’s how Leica have chosen to do it compared to the Sony way with boxes every where. But, yes, a small box on the eye would be better although I doubt it would change the way it works.

Gordon

[Gavin Cato]

I''ve found the 3.0 face/eye (whatever) af works beautifully on a single subject, but put a few people in the scene and it'll invariably grab the wrong one.

The sony a9 was a bazillion times better here as you could use the center af to focus/recompose on a face, and it'd then stay on that face like glue.

But anyway, no complaints here. I'll use the face detect stuff with portraits, and switch to another mode when there's a few people in the scene.

 

[Photoworks]

1 hour ago, hillavoider said:

so let me get this straight. Leica wont change the yellow box covering the face into a tiny box or cross on the eye in focus because the yellow box covering the face offers a cleaner screen..... 🙄

 

what is the point in wining so much, it will not change. if the would listen to you that may take them 2 more years to come out.

In any case I like to see the face and pay attention to expression and connection to subject.

You probably want the smile program next from sony?!?

[hillavoider]

6 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

what is the point in wining so much, it will not change. if the would listen to you that may take them 2 more years to come out.

In any case I like to see the face and pay attention to expression and connection to subject.

You probably want the smile program next from sony?!?

nah, next AF camera i will go back to canon, they don't sell ya snake oil 

leica is only good for the m system which is alot of fun

[Photoworks]

16 minutes ago, hillavoider said:

nah, next AF camera i will go back to canon, they don't sell ya snake oil 

leica is only good for the m system which is alot of fun

good idea , you can have eye to eye AF in the new one. you just look at the direction to focus and voila..

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[rtai]

I bought the SL2 to use as an manual focus camera for M lenses. My other Leica is an M10M and I wanted something for color and cheaper than the M10R and the used 24-90 I got for it is outstanding. I had a Canon 1v back some 15 years ago and the AF was excellent quick and accurate. No expectations no disappointment.