What is the ideal 35/50 lens pairing with the M10R and M10M?

[a.noctilux]

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Choosing two currentLeica lenses is not so easy anymore.

We have choices that kill the choice (in french we would say 'trop de choix tue le choix' ), as for example in 35mm we have F/1.4, then many F/2 lenses, in 28mm F/1.4/2/2.8/5.6

( so nice choices that some people has more than one ! ), in 50mm the tough decision with many in same aperture F/0.95/1.2/1.4/2.

 

As John ( @IkarusJohn ) wrote, take two of them then learn for a while to like or not, it's matter of use and time will tell.

 

Maybe you would change from 35/50 to anything else, who knows ?

 

My post #7 again, have a look ...

Edited July 13, 2021 by a.noctilux

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[evikne]

When I bought my first Leica not many years ago, I simply got the current 50mm Summilux ASPH and 35mm Summilux FLE. If it had not been for this forum, I would probably still be a happy owner of these. But then I was so influenced by others and became completely confused. 🤪

[Wonzo]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb evikne:

When I bought my first Leica not many years ago, I simply got the current 50mm Summilux ASPH and 35mm Summilux FLE. If it had not been for this forum, I would probably still be a happy owner of these. But then I was so influenced by others and became completely confused. 🤪

True, I was also quite satisfied with my basic equipment until I became a user of the forum. Since then it has also cost me a lot of money and I`m afraid, this will continue ... 😁

[cheeseyk]

2 hours ago, Wonzo said:

True, I was also quite satisfied with my basic equipment until I became a user of the forum. Since then it has also cost me a lot of money and I`m afraid, this will continue ... 😁

Its the same  with me. I started with an M6, since then its been a downhill slippery slope culminating with a recently acquired M10 R Black paint. Now I must try and find a new home for some of my collection. I did say to the nice lady at Leica Mayfair not to let me in next time I turn up. 😀

[Wonzo]

 

Edited July 13, 2021 by Wonzo
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[Wonzo]

vor 16 Minuten schrieb cheeseyk:

Its the same  with me. I started with an M6, since then its been a downhill slippery slope culminating with a recently acquired M10 R Black paint. Now I must try and find a new home for some of my collection. I did say to the nice lady at Leica Mayfair not to let me in next time I turn up. 😀

In the end it will come down to a glass vitrine in order to keep an overwiew. At least this is what I purchased for my equipment. And the M10R BP looks nice in there .... 

[pgk]

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On 7/12/2021 at 9:53 PM, 250swb said:

I presume you use a 300mm lens for long shots, not close ups, in which case the effect of movement is minimised the further away from the subject you are. You are talking about theoretical sweet spots, something a photographer can use to their advantage, but often rather different to the real world. I've photographed from boats bobbing on the sea, my technique was to wait until my boat reached the top of the wave. Either way it doesn't answer the question, if hand holding is so great tell me why there is no advantage in either a stable platform or IBIS regarding getting the best from a lens?

My point was that hand holding does not reclude getting techinally good results; sharp or whatever you want to cally it - which maximise a lens's capabilities. If possible and there is no reason not to, I will use a tripod. Otherwise I will use eery option available to e to achieve a technically acxeptable result. You do not have to use a tripod to obtain results which are as good as they can be, but it depends on what you are doing. And to answer your question, I have used all sorts of focal lengths from boats and the detail obtained is entirely dependednt on angular movement; image stabilisation, relevant shutter speed and timing/camera holding and other techniques all play a part.

[T25UFO]

Only just discovered this thread - some interesting discussions.  Until recently I would have definitely gone for the 50mm APO, particularly on the M10 Mono, and would have no interest in the Noctilux.  Then I tried the reissued f1.2 Noctilux.  Similar size and weight to the Summilux and a completely different proposition to the f0.95 lens.

Super sharp stopped down and dreamy wide open.  Main downside (as already mentioned) you can’t just go into a shop and buy it, but worth breaking the budget if you can get hold of one.

I tend to agree with others here in that 35mm is too close to 50mm, so for the wide angle I would vote for a 28mm Summilux.  Or just buy a Q2 and avoid the hassle of changing lenses!

[T25UFO]

An old thread and I just happened to look at the last [my] comment.  Nearly four years on and I have sold the 50mm APO, kept the 50mm Noctilux f1.2 reissue and bought the 35mm APO.

The M10R has gone and the M10 mono has been replaced by the M11 mono.  My go to 28mm is a Q3.  Longer focal length (90mm) and shorter (21mm) are taking care of by the SL3, which is also great for the Noctilux reissue.

That’s it, I’m done . . . I think!

[bourne]

I love the summicrons on my M10R.... 50/2 non APO and 35/2 asph.  Q2 for wider angle shots.

[panoramer]

I recommend two options for the Leica M10-R: 50mm Summilux V4 and Leica 35mm Summilux-M ASPH f/1.4 FLE (2010) from a haptic perspective. The form factor is perfect. Or, if haptic isn't so important, the Leica 50mm Summilux V5 and Leica 35mm Summilux-M ASPH f/1.4 FLE "Close Focus" (2022). They are more top-heavy and feel bulkier. Here, you have the advantage of being able to go below 70cm, which is perfect for food photography, for example. You have to decide whether you prefer the softer look of a Summilux or the harsher, sharper look of a Summicron. It helps to filter for Leica lenses at www.flickr.com and evaluate for yourself which you prefer. My Apo-Summicron 35+50mm are State-of-the-art.

Edited April 21 by panoramer

[vha]

My 35/50 kit  for my M10M  3(and M90M before that),  contains  a 35mm summilux and a 50 lux, both pre asphs.

The 50mm stays most of the time in  the bag,  but gets its 15 seconds of fame when i  now and then wonder why i still keep it.

so my 35/50 kit consists of a 35mm and a sleeping 50mm lux,  but it might be replaced with a rigid summicron.

Had the joy of buying back my old 50mm summicron, for about twice for what I sold it for 15 years ago. But as we all know, quality is priceless . . .    

Back to the topic, i chose the 35mm pre asph because it got me the pictures that felt familiar, or should i say pleasant.? It gave me photos like I remembered then to be, back when i shot film with my M6 or M3 ds.   Before that i tested the 35mm nokton 1.2, a 35mm biogon 2.8, a  35mm summicron asph v1 before it felt like home again with the 35mm pre asph.   Its sharp enough, renders great, and it still keeps up with the M10M, but it deserves a cla in a year or so.

About the 50mm? I enjoyed the 50mm rigid summicron a lot with Ilford delta 100, so it would fit the M10M great, and the internet claims so too.

[costa43]

I’m a big fan of pre-ASPH Leica lenses with higher resolution cameras as I find it takes some of the digital edge off an image, but with the Monochrom cameras, I think modern, high contrast glass works really well. I’d choose the APO glass with them.