My first Leica lens, some suggestions are welcome!

[solamnus]

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So in another post i said i was thinking about a black M4 which i ended up buying with 4 lenses.

The lenses i have now are : Minolta rocker 28 f2,8. The Voigtländer 35 f1,7 Ultron, the Nikon 50 f2,0 LTM and the voigtländer 75 Heliar color f2,5.

Im thinking of maybe buy the first Leica branded lens, and my reasoning is the "best" arguable lens i already have is the 35 Voigtländer, and therefor maybe adding a summicron 50 f,2 lens to have a somewhat more complete kit.

Im fairly new to the leica ecosystem, "only" had 2 Leica Q, so only ever really tried the Summilux then i suppose  So what are your suggestions for what version i should get from either a 50 or a 35, and for the M4 but maybe alos think ahead if i ever get a digital M at some point.

Thank you:)

Edit : ow...forgot that price range might be from 900 EU to 1500 EU.

Martin.

Edited June 1, 2021 by solamnus

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[jaeger]

The field of view is personal preference, but do try the Noct or Summilux.   The image quality from all known lens makers are very close these days, especially with advanced  photo editing technology. 

[lct]

38 minutes ago, solamnus said:

price range might be from 900 EU to 1500 EU

6 minutes ago, jaeger said:

do try the Noct or Summilux

At 900 or 1500 give me both please

 

[wda]

46 minutes ago, solamnus said:

So in another post i said i was thinking about a black M4 which i ended up buying with 4 lenses.

The lenses i have now are : Minolta rocker 28 f2,8. The Voigtländer 35 f1,7 Ultron, the Nikon 50 f2,0 LTM and the voigtländer 75 Heliar color f2,5.

Im thinking of maybe buy the first Leica branded lens, and my reasoning is the "best" arguable lens i already have is the 35 Voigtländer, and therefor maybe adding a summicron 50 f,2 lens to have a somewhat more complete kit.

Im fairly new to the leica ecosystem, "only" had 2 Leica Q, so only ever really tried the Summilux then i suppose  So what are your suggestions for what version i should get from either a 50 or a 35, and for the M4 but maybe alos think ahead if i ever get a digital M at some point.

Thank you:)

Edit : ow...forgot that price range might be from 900 EU to 1500 EU.

Martin.

Consider a Summarit. Well regarded by many owners.

[jaeger]

13 minutes ago, lct said:

At 900 or 1500 give me both please

 

oops, didn't have my morning coffee yet.  Well... 50 Summilux I, II & III will do.

[solamnus]

1 minute ago, jaeger said:

oops, didn't have my morning coffee yet.  Well... 50 Summilux I, II & III will do.

heh cheers, yeh thought the summilux was a bit out of that price range , although id be ecstatic if i did found any at all there  thank you. I found a summicron Rigid version for around 1000 EU, is that an ok price tag?

[a.noctilux]

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Martin,

I'm with David, you can not go wrong with either of Summarit-M 2.5/35mm or 2.5/50mm .

If you are not happy with these, selling later (for whatever lens you would want) would be only small lost of money.

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I use them also on sensors Monochrom or color,

happily.

Easy life lenses with the homonym 2.5/75 to complete the set.

Edited June 1, 2021 by a.noctilux

[Ecar]

1 hour ago, solamnus said:

So in another post i said i was thinking about a black M4 which i ended up buying with 4 lenses.

The lenses i have now are : Minolta rocker 28 f2,8. The Voigtländer 35 f1,7 Ultron, the Nikon 50 f2,0 LTM and the voigtländer 75 Heliar color f2,5.

A bit of an eclectic lens mix. Out of curiosity: did the lenses come as a full set with the M4 - or did you pick them based on your preferences?

The reason I'm asking is that - unless you chose the lenses and/or are a compulsive lens hoarder like me (and others) on this forum - you may want to rethink your lineup in terms of focal lengths and type of rendering before picking a Leica lens. You may even be able to free some extra cash by selling a lens or two.   

Edited June 1, 2021 by Ecar

[a.noctilux]

26 minutes ago, solamnus said:

heh cheers, yeh thought the summilux was a bit out of that price range , although id be ecstatic if i did found any at all there  thank you. I found a summicron Rigid version for around 1000 EU, is that an ok price tag?

My good opinion on Rigid can not cancell it's heavy, focus only to 1m 😉.

Very good lens now a bit old so be aware of some flaws in glasses, focus mechanism, etc.

 

Just in case, I never hear Summarit-M lenses "real" flaws (... only user faults in most case).

Edited June 1, 2021 by a.noctilux

[solamnus]

22 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

Martin,

I'm with David, you can not go wrong with either of Summarit-M 2.5/35mm or 2.5/50mm .

If you are not happy with these, selling later (for whatever lens you would want) would be only small lost of money.

too winners on M2

Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here…

Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!

 

I use them also on sensors Monochrom or color,

happily.

Easy life lenses with the homonym 2.5/75 to complete the set.

Thank you for those suggestions , i will look them up and consider them since you hold them in high regard

 

[a.noctilux]

more here,

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/320923-change-50-summicron-rigid-or-not/?do=findComment&comment=4202772

 

...

another read here

 

Edited June 1, 2021 by a.noctilux

[Herr Barnack]

1 hour ago, solamnus said:

Edit : ow...forgot that price range might be from 900 EU to 1500 EU.

Martin.

Given that constraint, I would say either a 35mm f/2.4 Summarit or a 50mm f/2.4 Summarit from the secondary (used) market. 

I have the 50 Summarit and it is a seriously good little lens.  I wish I'd been fast enough to get a copy of the 75mm f/2.4 before the Summarit line was retired.

[solamnus]

37 minutes ago, Ecar said:

A bit of an eclectic lens mix. Out of curiosity: did the lenses come as a full set with the M4 - or did you pick them based on your preferences?

The reason I'm asking is that - unless you chose the lenses and/or are a compulsive lens hoarder like me (and others) on this forum - you may want to rethink your lineup in terms of focal lengths and type of rendering before picking a Leica lens. You may even be able to free some extra cash by selling a lens or two.   

Yes they all came with the M4 to bridge the gap with the Q i traded for it. I am a hoarder too by the way lol, so hoarding Nikon lenses and now leica lenses i suppose.

I have little experience with the lenses i got with the M4 and haven't even got the shots back from lab yet, but the handling was great  and heard some good things about them. But feel i need to at least try some Leica glass on the M4 to make the journey more "complete "

[solamnus]

30 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

more here,

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/320923-change-50-summicron-rigid-or-not/?do=findComment&comment=4202772

 

...

another read here

 

Thank you, will have a look at those threads

[solamnus]

40 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

My good opinion on Rigid can not cancell it's heavy, focus only to 1m 😉.

Very good lens now a bit old so be aware of some flaws in glasses, focus mechanism, etc.

 

Just in case, I never hear Summarit-M lenses "real" flaws (... only user faults in most case).

Thanks, and a good warning too

[Narsuitus]

3 hours ago, solamnus said:

The lenses i have now are : Minolta rocker 28 f2,8. The Voigtländer 35 f1,7 Ultron, the Nikon 50 f2,0 LTM and the voigtländer 75 Heliar color f2,5.

If I had been using the four lenses you listed, I would have an idea of which focal lengths I liked and/or used the most. In my case, the 35mm f/1.7 would be my personal favorite. I would replace it with a 35mm Leitz lens that was within my budgetary constraints.

On the other hand, if I were not satisfied with the optical performance and/or the physical construction of one of the lenses, that is the one I would replace with a Leitz lens that fit within my budgetary constraints.

However, I would probably be happy with the four lenses you listed. Therefore, I would keep the four lenses and buy a Leitz lens that was different from what I already had. In my case, I would look for a 21mm or a 135mm Leitz lens that I could add to my inventory.

[Stein K S]

It is something about that 50 cron (v4/v5) that deserves some attention...  must be one of the more iconic Leica lenses all in all and as such ¨fun¨ to bring along in a life with Leica 😉

and should be within reach of budget

Edited June 1, 2021 by Stein K S

[Danner]

You would not go wrong with a version 4 Summicron 50mm lens.

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[lct]

3 hours ago, solamnus said:

The lenses i have now are : Minolta rocker 28 f2,8. The Voigtländer 35 f1,7 Ultron [...]

3 hours ago, solamnus said:

maybe adding a summicron 50 f,2 lens to have a somewhat more complete kit. [...]

A Summicron 50/2 v3 or v4 would match well your tiny Rokkor 28/2.8 that i own as well together with a v4 and a v5 Summicron. V5 would suit well too but would be more expensive probably. V4 would be my favorite for its smaller size and its focus tab but i would choose a late copy with concave focus tab preferably. Matter of taste though,  some people prefer earlier models with convex aka "tiger claw" focus tab. Here a late copy with concave focus tab:

 

 

 

[wda]

1 hour ago, Herr Barnack said:

Given that constraint, I would say either a 35mm f/2.4 Summarit or a 50mm f/2.4 Summarit from the secondary (used) market. 

I have the 50 Summarit and it is a seriously good little lens.  I wish I'd been fast enough to get a copy of the 75mm f/2.4 before the Summarit line was retired.

Buyers should not neglect the f/2.5 versions which are optically identical to the ones quoted above, and possibly slightly less expensive. I guess they are so popular that few reach the second-hand market.