wlaidlaw Posted December 4, 2021 Share #401 Posted December 4, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) My only left field recent purchase was a Rolleiflex 3003. This basically was the camera that broke Franke & Heidecke. It was an absurdly over-ambitious exercise, where between the 35mm system cameras 2000/3000 series and the medium format 66/6000 series there were some 40 new lenses designed to be built by Zeiss, Rollei, Kirin and Minolta plus dozens of dedicated accessories. They refitted the old Voigtlander factory in Braunschweig and the Rollei factory in Singapore to build the new lenses. The cameras were all made in Germany. The 3003 was the same price as a Hasselblad XPAN. It is fairly unergonomic to use and was obviously designed more as a studio camera than hand held. I put in a bid of €400 for the camera, two film backs, a battery pack, 50mm/f1.7 Zeiss lens, 35mm/f2.8 Rollei/Minolta and 28-105mm Rollei/Kirin, not expecting to win but I did. I then bought a spare battery pack, which arrived with yet another film back. Sadly the diaphragm is stuck wide open on the otherwise excellent 28-105mm lens (a Zeiss design). My local repairer had a look at it but could not even work out how to open the lens up. Newton Ellis up in Liverpool think they may be able to repair it and I must get round to sending it up there. Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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willeica Posted December 4, 2021 Share #402 Posted December 4, 2021 Two Contessa Nettel Luxus Tropical cameras, one little and the other large. The little one is tiny, about the size of 3 matchboxes. It is the smallest folding camera with a ground glass screen that I have ever seen. Both of these cameras have Zeiss Tessar lenses in Compur Dial Set Mounts. The cameras made in the 1920s both use glass plates, but I have a 120 film back for the larger camera. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Contessa cameras were made by Dr August Nagel , a man who should be much better remembered in the history of photography. He sold his Contessa business to Zeiss and then went on to produce his Nagel cameras, some with Leitz lenses ( I have a few of them), but then he sold that business to Kodak. One of my Nagel Pupilles has a Compur shutter marked with the Kodak name. Nagel worked with the Kodak company to produce the Retina camera, the first camera designed to use the disposable 35mm cassettes, which subsequently became universal for 35mm photography. William 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Contessa cameras were made by Dr August Nagel , a man who should be much better remembered in the history of photography. He sold his Contessa business to Zeiss and then went on to produce his Nagel cameras, some with Leitz lenses ( I have a few of them), but then he sold that business to Kodak. One of my Nagel Pupilles has a Compur shutter marked with the Kodak name. Nagel worked with the Kodak company to produce the Retina camera, the first camera designed to use the disposable 35mm cassettes, which subsequently became universal for 35mm photography. William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4326147'>More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted December 5, 2021 Share #403 Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) This is more an accumulation rather than a collection. I never intended to collect Rolleiflex, so there is no system or purpose other than a "I wanted to try" motivation. Now they all have something different to offer so I can't really bring myself to part with any of them - because I know I will regret it. These all have lenses with uniques signatures: Xenar, Uncoated Tessar, Tessar, Triotar (coated) and Planar - and they each get to shoot at least one roll of film a year. Left to right: Late white face T with Xenar. Very early Automat with uncoated Tessar, MX-EVS with Tessar, Rolleicord II with Triotar 3.5 (with pre war sync and post war coating), and finally a 3.5C with Planar. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 5, 2021 by nitroplait 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4326546'>More sharing options...
Matlock Posted December 5, 2021 Share #404 Posted December 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, nitroplait said: This is more an accumulation rather than a collection. I never intended to collect Rolleiflex, so there is no system or purpose other than a "I wanted to try" motivation. Now they all have something different to offer so I can't really bring myself to part with any of them - because I know I will regret it. These all have lenses with uniques signatures: Xenar, Uncoated Tessar, Tessar, Triotar (coated) and Planar - and they each get to shoot at least one roll of film a year. Left to right: Late white face T with Xenar. Very early Automat with uncoated Tessar, MX-EVS with Tessar, Rolleicord II with Triotar 3.5 (with pre war sync and post war coating), and finally a 3.5C with Planar. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I too am a bit of a Rollei fan. I bought my first New Rolleiflex 3.5F in 1981. The collection has grown since and all (bar a dummy 2.8GX) are used. My latest TLR is a rather nice Tele which I will collect from it's CLA on Tuesday but my latest Rollei is this. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted December 6, 2021 Share #405 Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) A couple of Contarex heavyweights! A Professional body with the 40-80 lens, and an Electronic body with the 80-250 lens. I have used the Electronic with a motor drive and 250 back, for even more weight. But not recently. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 6, 2021 by alan mcfall more text 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4326945'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 6, 2021 Share #406 Posted December 6, 2021 18 hours ago, Matlock said: I too am a bit of a Rollei fan. I bought my first New Rolleiflex 3.5F in 1981. The collection has grown since and all (bar a dummy 2.8GX) are used. My latest TLR is a rather nice Tele which I will collect from it's CLA on Tuesday but my latest Rollei is this. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Is this related in any way to the following item? https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/108546802_rollei-kineidoscop-prototype William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted December 6, 2021 Share #407 Posted December 6, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 55 minutes ago, willeica said: Is this related in any way to the following item? https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/108546802_rollei-kineidoscop-prototype William Well it is related I suppose but my one is 120 roll film whilst the Kineidoscop was 35mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 6, 2021 Share #408 Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Matlock said: Well it is related I suppose but my one is 120 roll film whilst the Kineidoscop was 35mm. Is your one for stereo? It seems to have two taking lenses and one viewing lens. William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted December 6, 2021 Share #409 Posted December 6, 2021 46 minutes ago, willeica said: Is your one for stereo? It seems to have two taking lenses and one viewing lens. William Yes William, It is Stereo. The Rolleidoscop was made in both 127 and 120 sizes (and was predated by the Heidoscop which was a plate cameras in the two sizes). With the Rolleidoscop it is possible to take 5 stereo pairs plus one single or, by blanking off alternative lenses, 11 single shots on a 120 roll. The models are well described in Rollei Report 1 by Claus Prochnow (German only I believe). Peter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 6, 2021 Share #410 Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) Leica I Model A converted to a Standard and fitted with a Dallmeyer Popular 3 inch f4 telephotos lens. The camera has a 0 on the mount and it has an additional screw-in mount which converts from LTM to cine C mount. The camera is from 1930 with a serial number of 33875 , although from some angles the '8' looks like a '6'. Note the flash sync which seems to have been added later. The item on the left is a lens hood for the Dallmeyer lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This camera was obviously converted in 1933 or later. Earlier, Dallmeyer had offered the fitting of the 4 inch f5.6 Dallon Tele-Anastigmat to the I Model A as this advertisement by Sinclair from around 1930 shows. Note that the lens goes into the actual Leica mount and is obviously matched, thus giving a very early interchangeable lens Leica as the Standard Elmar 50mm lens could also be used. Here is I Model A SN 33620 ( not far from mine) fitted with the Dallmeyer lens The Dallmeyer lens would have been engraved with the SN of the Leica to show the matching. Alignment marks were added to the Dallmeyer and the Elmar to ensure proper registration when the lenses were screwed on. Note the swing mask for the viewfinder for use with the 4 inch lens. I don't have the swing mask, but I can use any of my finders for the 7.3 cm Hektor which is close in focal length to the 3 inch lens, although coverage should be different with a C mount lens. I'll experiment with a roll of film. My camera, being standardised can, of course, be used with any standardised Leica lens, including the 50mm Elmar, 7.3 cm Hektor and the 9cm Elmar and with a VIDOM or VIOOH or a one lens viewfinder. Another interesting fact is that interchangeable mount Leicas were being produced in England even before the I Model C, as early as 1928 in some cases. Some of the lenses used were British eg Ross and Dallmeyer , but some were also converted to take the Meyer Kino Plasmat f1.5 1 and 5/8th inch lens, which was a very fast lens for its day. My item is perhaps the tail end of that story. I could have put this in a 'Leica thread', but the story more properly relates to what happened to the cameras later in Britain William Edited December 6, 2021 by willeica 10 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This camera was obviously converted in 1933 or later. Earlier, Dallmeyer had offered the fitting of the 4 inch f5.6 Dallon Tele-Anastigmat to the I Model A as this advertisement by Sinclair from around 1930 shows. Note that the lens goes into the actual Leica mount and is obviously matched, thus giving a very early interchangeable lens Leica as the Standard Elmar 50mm lens could also be used. Here is I Model A SN 33620 ( not far from mine) fitted with the Dallmeyer lens The Dallmeyer lens would have been engraved with the SN of the Leica to show the matching. Alignment marks were added to the Dallmeyer and the Elmar to ensure proper registration when the lenses were screwed on. Note the swing mask for the viewfinder for use with the 4 inch lens. I don't have the swing mask, but I can use any of my finders for the 7.3 cm Hektor which is close in focal length to the 3 inch lens, although coverage should be different with a C mount lens. I'll experiment with a roll of film. My camera, being standardised can, of course, be used with any standardised Leica lens, including the 50mm Elmar, 7.3 cm Hektor and the 9cm Elmar and with a VIDOM or VIOOH or a one lens viewfinder. Another interesting fact is that interchangeable mount Leicas were being produced in England even before the I Model C, as early as 1928 in some cases. Some of the lenses used were British eg Ross and Dallmeyer , but some were also converted to take the Meyer Kino Plasmat f1.5 1 and 5/8th inch lens, which was a very fast lens for its day. My item is perhaps the tail end of that story. I could have put this in a 'Leica thread', but the story more properly relates to what happened to the cameras later in Britain William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4327205'>More sharing options...
cary Posted December 6, 2021 Share #411 Posted December 6, 2021 Nikon F, 55mm f3.5 micro lens and gold Sekonic meter. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4327266'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted December 7, 2021 Share #412 Posted December 7, 2021 The German title fascinates me for years. What Caviar has to do with cameras... Ihagee Ultrix Simplex. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Taken on Mamiya C33, Sekor 80 2.8. f16, 24 sec. Shanghai 100 film, Rodinal 50:1 and Salt 13min, Kodak Fixer 5 min. 2014. May. ON. Ihagee Ultrix Simplex. Shanghai 100, Rodinal 1:100, 60 min. Ihagee Ultrix Simplex, Fujicolor PRO 400H, C-41 Home kit. 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Taken on Mamiya C33, Sekor 80 2.8. f16, 24 sec. Shanghai 100 film, Rodinal 50:1 and Salt 13min, Kodak Fixer 5 min. 2014. May. ON. Ihagee Ultrix Simplex. Shanghai 100, Rodinal 1:100, 60 min. Ihagee Ultrix Simplex, Fujicolor PRO 400H, C-41 Home kit. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4327513'>More sharing options...
UliWer Posted December 7, 2021 Share #413 Posted December 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Ko.Fe. said: What Caviar has to do with cameras... You are right. The title was imported from the German part of the forum, where the thread runs for many years now. The German thread's title alludes to a phrase meaning "You can't always have caviar" (so sometimes even in the Leica forum you have to put up with different brands...). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted December 7, 2021 Share #414 Posted December 7, 2021 I have long been attracted to the Minox subminiature camera. Like the Leica with Barnack as the driving force, Minox had Walter Zapp in Latvia with true entrepreneurship. Surviving the war, and Soviet control of production, and relocating to Wetzlar, and subsequently to Heuchelheim and Giessen. There are several books on the development history. Compact precision to produce big photos from small negatives. A slogan Leitz used for years. My Minox collection appears here, looking somewhat in disarray. But represented with 160 examples of this 8 x 11 camera, including 17 made in Riga, and 30 of the low production model II of 1948/49, and 24 of the relatively uncommon BL version. Along with all the accessories, enlargers, projectors and literature, it has been an enjoyable exercise. Of course one never gives up looking for the hard to find examples. How many other Leica collectors have been drawn to the Minox? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4327579'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 7, 2021 Share #415 Posted December 7, 2021 I currently have two Minox C models, an early brushed chrome and a later black. I later had a TLX as well but when I was at a reception, it was knocked off a table and had had a stiletto heel planted on it from the look of the dent and was very difficult to open. My insurer at the time said they would pay for a write off but not a repair, so I opted for a write off. I do still have some quite rare attachments, like the binocular adapter, a light box viewer frame with magnifier and an enlarger film holder for 8 x 11. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted December 7, 2021 Share #416 Posted December 7, 2021 9 hours ago, alan mcfall said: How many other Leica collectors have been drawn to the Minox? Collectors? Repairman = Don Goldberg. After training at Leica, he went on to Minox for training. And his training in Germany included Rolleiflex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambro51 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share #417 Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Recently arrived, the TONE camera, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The “high water mark” in the world of “HIT” cameras. Designed from the start to be comparable to full sized cameras, it features an f 3.5 Anastigmat with focusing front element. Unlike other 17.5mm cameras it has a flat film plane. Aperature from 3.5 to 11. Speeds B to 1/100. Very well made, excellent details in design, there are Seven knurled parts, and a leather covering. The lens is coated, as are the optics of the built in waist level finder. This may seem superfluous, but it allows composition with the camera braced on a flat surface. Different .Yup! Edited December 7, 2021 by Ambro51 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The “high water mark” in the world of “HIT” cameras. Designed from the start to be comparable to full sized cameras, it features an f 3.5 Anastigmat with focusing front element. Unlike other 17.5mm cameras it has a flat film plane. Aperature from 3.5 to 11. Speeds B to 1/100. Very well made, excellent details in design, there are Seven knurled parts, and a leather covering. The lens is coated, as are the optics of the built in waist level finder. This may seem superfluous, but it allows composition with the camera braced on a flat surface. Different .Yup! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4327806'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 7, 2021 Share #418 Posted December 7, 2021 Howard Grubb Aplanatic lens for 12x10 plates made in Dublin c mid to late 1890s. The lens is made from aluminium, which was a relatively new material at the time, and it is considerably lighter than the 7 earlier Grubb lenses in my collection, which are all made from brass. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My earlier Grubb lenses, dating from the 1850s to the 1880s, either have washer or Waterhouse stops. This one has a diaphragm, shown here at f22. The aperture range goes f 11.3, f16, f22, f32, f45, f64. The Royal Photographic Society aperture scale, introduced between 1895 and 1902, included an 11.3 setting. I feel that the lens was probably before 1900 and, so, I am saying mid to late 1890s. The lens itself is orange tinted. This is not a balsam issue, which some of my earlier lenses have, albeit with no optical problems arising. This is quite different. I suspect that the lens was used for a specialised application requiring high contrast. Possibilities are astronomy, science, industrial or military. By this time, Grubbs had started making items for the military such as rifle scopes and, later, periscopes. Finally, the lens came with nice cap with plush lining. This is a really lovely piece which compares well with lenses made by other great optical manufacturers in Britain and Germany. William 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! My earlier Grubb lenses, dating from the 1850s to the 1880s, either have washer or Waterhouse stops. This one has a diaphragm, shown here at f22. The aperture range goes f 11.3, f16, f22, f32, f45, f64. The Royal Photographic Society aperture scale, introduced between 1895 and 1902, included an 11.3 setting. I feel that the lens was probably before 1900 and, so, I am saying mid to late 1890s. The lens itself is orange tinted. This is not a balsam issue, which some of my earlier lenses have, albeit with no optical problems arising. This is quite different. I suspect that the lens was used for a specialised application requiring high contrast. Possibilities are astronomy, science, industrial or military. By this time, Grubbs had started making items for the military such as rifle scopes and, later, periscopes. Finally, the lens came with nice cap with plush lining. This is a really lovely piece which compares well with lenses made by other great optical manufacturers in Britain and Germany. William ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/318752-nicht-immer-nur-kaviar-english-version/?do=findComment&comment=4328087'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 7, 2021 Share #419 Posted December 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, willeica said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Wow! That truly is a thing of beauty, William! I've seen quite a few late 19th C. lenses in my time but never once have seen anything quite like that in consideration of all the details when added together to make 'the whole'. Many congratulations on a superb 'local' acquisition and thanks for sharing the images with us. Philip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 8, 2021 Share #420 Posted December 8, 2021 William I wonder if the Grubb lens could have been used for meteorology, for taking cloud formation photographs, where the orange tint would have added contrast and reduced glare. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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