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[nitroplait]

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My first time to hold and own ROBOT.

A positive and surprising experience on many levels - quite a unique and charming little thing.

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[thomas_schertel]

Today I received an ICA Atom horizontal, so that my vertical one has a sibling.

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[thomas_schertel]

A generous gift from Mr. Braun, whom i did not know before.

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[thomas_schertel]

Nagel Ranca

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[willeica]

On 6/22/2022 at 9:41 PM, thomas_schertel said:

Today I received an ICA Atom horizontal, so that my vertical one has a sibling.

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i saw and examined one of these at the recent Leitz Auction. It is a very pretty little camera. Is this the same one?

William 

[thomas_schertel]

vor 5 Minuten schrieb willeica:

i saw and examined one of these at the recent Leitz Auction. It is a very pretty little camera. Is this the same one?

William 

No, I bought it from Mrs. Feldhaus of Facebook.

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[thomas_schertel]

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Another camera from Mr. Braun:

Ica Record with Voigtländer Collinear:

Unfortunately are the shutter blinds porous and have holes.

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[thomas_schertel]

A british light meter, working.

Maybe somebody knows mre of the brand.

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Edited July 3, 2022 by thomas_schertel

[wlaidlaw]

I wonder if it might be an early Weston Master. The logo looks like a W and an M. 

Wilson

[Pyrogallol]

I was given this light meter, not photographic. Probably 1930’s, designed for office and factory use. Still works.

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[wlaidlaw]

Just for folks information, Ian Partridge in the UK, https://ian-partridge.com/lightm.html can rebuild most models of Weston Master light meters, so that they look as if they came out of the factory yesterday. He has replacement silicon cells. Unfortunately they are too big to fit in Metrophot and Leicameters and cannot be cut. I have one of Ian's Weston Master V models, although I have to admit that when I go to pick up a lightmeter, it is usually one of the tiny shoe mount (or pocket) Voigtlander VC2 meters. Dead cells in Contax RF cameras can be replaced with a silicon photovoltaic cell from a small pocket calculator but will need recalibration, using a micro potentiometer. 

Wilson

[Ambro51]

My Hot Rod Camera.   The Perfex 55 (and rarer 22) are nice cameras to use, but limited by the 3 element Graf lens.   Hmmmmmm....... a bit of creative mounting, and Wow the superb Nikkor HC F2 has been fitted.   These lenses are very lightweight and I think the larger Nikon lens blends well into the styling of the Perfex.    Having a body mounted heliacal focus, the rangefinder works.    

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[zeitz]

11 minutes ago, Ambro51 said:

3 element Graf lens

Could you say a few works about Graf triplets?  I am unfamiliar with this design and I can't find any information on-line.  I recall my Perfex having a Wollensak lens, but it may not be original.  Were any of these cameras sold outside the US?

[Ambro51]

The Graf Anastigmat is the Cooke Triplet design, quite respected.  Perfex later used General Scientific Scienar lenses, also the Cooke Triplet design.   WOLLENSAK Lenses also available. including a 2.8 lens of Tessar design.  Perfex did not offer coated lenses.  I don’t think Perfex was actively sold outside the US.  Overall production from 1938-1950 May be around 70,000 cameras of various models.   

Edited July 7, 2022 by Ambro51

[spydrxx]

This was an early foray into digital with Leica lenses, a mount modified Sigma SD 14. Slow buffer, but the Foveon sensor along with Leica lenses produced beautiful results. Now just a memory though.

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[jankap]

Memory? What a pity for the R-lenses thread!

Edited July 8, 2022 by jankap

[willeica]

Now for a mix of British lens technology and early Leicas. The very first interchangeable lens Leicas were not the I Model Cs, but I model A cameras which were matched with lenses by other manufacturers in Britain in the late 1920s. One of the first to do this was A.O. Roth who matched the Meyer 1 and 5/8th inch f.1.5 Kino Plasmat with Leicas in London in the late 1920s. This was a design from Dr Paul Rudolph who had created the anastigmat design while he was with Zeiss. British made lenses from Ross and Dallmeyer were also matched by British dealers such as Sinclair. Angela von Einem's book on the Leica I Model A gives full details  of such matching in Britain - pages 59 to 62 on my copy. Some people believe that Leitz/Leica was aware of what the British based technicians were doing and may have acquired some 'learning' from this.

I have not come across a Leica with the Meyer f1.5 lens, but I have acquired two cameras with Ross and Dallmeyer lenses, albeit not on I Model As in original condition but rather on a Standard and a standardised I Model A and mounted on LTM mounts. I acquired the item with a Dallmeyer lens some months ago and I have only just acquired the item with the Ross lens. I have done a quick side by side comparison of the lenses using an M10 with an adapter. 

Here is a Leica Standard with a Ross Teleros 4 inch (c 100mm) f5.5 lens followed by a test shot taken on an M10

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Here is a I Model A which has been standardised and fitted with a Dallmeyer Popular 3 inch (c 75mm) f 4 C Mount lens followed by a test shot taken on an M10

Being a C mount lens the Dallmeyer shows some vignetting on a full frame sensor. This could be easily fixed in Lightroom.

These are, of course, collectors' pieces for me. Finding an example with the Meyer f1.5 lens may prove very difficult.

Von Einem shows original I Model As and the adjustments made to them, but I have never seen any examples of those being sold in recent years. They have features such as dots and other marks for aligning lenses before mounting, which were not common features before the 1950s with bayonet mount lenses. The ones, which I have, just screw in like ordinary LTM lenses and they are on standardised camera mounts.

For what it is worth the two cameras which I have don't have swinging viewfinder masks for the 4 and 3 inch focal lengths, but these are shown as having been fitted to the 1920s conversions in von Einem's book.

The quality of the  c 85- 95 year old British made lenses shows in the pictures above, made using EVF focus. It would not be my intention to use these lenses for normal use. I have many LTM and M mount lenses which are much easier to use.

William 

 

 

Edited July 10, 2022 by willeica

[wlaidlaw]

My father told me that my great uncle had bought a coupled British Wray "long" lens for his Model III and a viewfinder for it during the mid 1930's. I acquired his black model III in 1968, a little bit worse for wear, when my great aunt gave it to me (he had died in 1949). Alan Starkie has done a wonderful job making it look almost like new, without doing a repaint. She said there were probably accessories up in her attic and I was welcome to look. There was no lighting up there and after getting through two sets of torch batteries with no success, I gave up. There were trunks of stuff up there, mostly full of old clothes and books of cloth samples from the family textile company. He may have sold the lens for all I know or else it is still hiding up there in a dark corner. 

Wilson

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[Matlock]

11 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

My father told me that my great uncle had bought a coupled British Wray "long" lens for his Model III and a viewfinder for it during the mid 1930's. I acquired his black model III in 1968, a little bit worse for wear, when my great aunt gave it to me (he had died in 1949). Alan Starkie has done a wonderful job making it look almost like new, without doing a repaint. She said there were probably accessories up in her attic and I was welcome to look. There was no lighting up there and after getting through two sets of torch batteries with no success, I gave up. There were trunks of stuff up there, mostly full of old clothes and books of cloth samples from the family textile company. He may have sold the lens for all I know or else it is still hiding up there in a dark corner. 

Wilson

If it is anything like my parent's attic, they are still there.

[willeica]

2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

My father told me that my great uncle had bought a coupled British Wray "long" lens for his Model III and a viewfinder for it during the mid 1930's. I acquired his black model III in 1968, a little bit worse for wear, when my great aunt gave it to me (he had died in 1949). Alan Starkie has done a wonderful job making it look almost like new, without doing a repaint. She said there were probably accessories up in her attic and I was welcome to look. There was no lighting up there and after getting through two sets of torch batteries with no success, I gave up. There were trunks of stuff up there, mostly full of old clothes and books of cloth samples from the family textile company. He may have sold the lens for all I know or else it is still hiding up there in a dark corner. 

Wilson

Wilson, I have some Wray versions of the Leica VIOOH. They are similar to the Leica original on the outside, but more cheaply made on the inside. I would love to see a photo of the Wray lens when that is possible. There were quite a few British made Leica mount lenses and accessories. You may recall the discussion here about the Stewartry lenses which were marked 'Made in Scotland' but only the mount was made there by Montgomery of Glasgow. The lens was actually made by the National Optical Company of Leicester.

I have done a Zoom presentation to the Photographic Collectors Club of Great Britain (PCCGB) on the British lenses fitted to very early Leicas. They have great expertise on British made cameras, lenses and accessories, including David Gardner who is the editor of their Tailboard newsletter and who specialises in British made cameras and lenses and John Wade who is a prolific author on vintage camera collecting and writes about the subject for the Amateur Photographer magazine. We also have Tim Goldsmith who is a consultant to Chiswick Auctions. Tim was involved with the John Vincent Reid Collection which included Taylor Hobson lenses. He has tapes where former Reid and Sigrist employees admitted that the 'British Intelligence ' delegation which visited the Leitz factory in Wetzlar after WWII included several Reid and Sigrist employees in fake uniforms. To the victor the spoils, but not quite!

Did you tell me recently that you had joined PCCGB? They are a wonderful organisation full of experienced collectors, like the guy who produced a Leica on a Zoom and said that he had bought it in 1947! That would make most of us here seem like newcomers. 

William