Where is the Black 28mm Summaron?

[fotografr]

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On 9/14/2021 at 7:38 PM, steve 1959 said:

If your taking pics of your kids/grandkids during a woodland walk you will need ISO  800 or 1600 where i live to get decent shutter speeds at f5.6 so there are times when the slow speed summaron can be limiting.

I use mine on the M10M and the M10-R and both cameras are so good at high ISO that the 5.6 max aperture isn't limiting at all. If I had grandkids, I could probably shoot them running around at night with that lens.

I don't know that I'd be comfortable with the Summaron shooting fast subjects in low light using film. I'd probably opt for the 28 Elmarit in that case. It's not quite as small as the Summaron but it's still very small,  especially without the hood.

Edited September 18, 2021 by fotografr

[M11 for me]

Am 15.9.2021 um 02:38 schrieb steve 1959:

If your taking pics of your kids/grandkids during a woodland walk you will need ISO  800 or 1600 where i live to get decent shutter speeds at f5.6 so there are times when the slow speed summaron can be limiting.

Of course. For such a narrow full open aperture you need enough light. There is no doubt about that. But I presume that nobody here has just the f/5.6 lens as the only 28mm lens. I have the Summicron and the Summaron would be the sunshine-lens which would be very small and light and beautiful. I would love to have it in black though. I think that it looks much nicer. And if its true that originally the black 50mm Lux was a special edition that is still sold then there is hope for a black Summaron. On the other hand with the 50mm lux in silver there is that weight problem. "Unfortunately" I have a silver one that I "never" use because of too much weight. The Summaron does not have that problem with additional weight over the black one and therefore there would be no added value for the black version except the look.

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15 hours ago, M10 for me said:

Of course. For such a narrow full open aperture you need enough light. There is no doubt about that. But I presume that nobody here has just the f/5.6 lens as the only 28mm lens. I have the Summicron and the Summaron would be the sunshine-lens which would be very small and light and beautiful. I would love to have it in black though. I think that it looks much nicer. And if its true that originally the black 50mm Lux was a special edition that is still sold then there is hope for a black Summaron. On the other hand with the 50mm lux in silver there is that weight problem. "Unfortunately" I have a silver one that I "never" use because of too much weight. The Summaron does not have that problem with additional weight over the black one and therefore there would be no added value for the black version except the look.

I really like my summaron but i bought a elmarit version 2 to give me a similar look but with a bit more speed when the situation demanded. 

Trouble is i like the old elmarit quite a bit more than my remake summaron  which means that my summaron is mostly left at home sadly at this time.

A good thing for me is i have discovered i much prefer older type designs than modern ones for people pictures thanks to the summaron  and elmarit v2 as well as two other older style lenses i own.

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20 hours ago, fotografr said:

I use mine on the M10M and the M10-R and both cameras are so good at high ISO that the 5.6 max aperture isn't limiting at all. If I had grandkids, I could probably shoot them running around at night with that lens.

I don't know that I'd be comfortable with the Summaron shooting fast subjects in low light using film. I'd probably opt for the 28 Elmarit in that case. It's not quite as small as the Summaron but it's still very small,  especially without the hood.

I have an m262 but i have taken a series of terrible light pics of 2 of my grand kids splashing around on the somerset coast  at ISO 3200 which i was very pleased with but that shoot also got me thinking about a faster but similar type 28mm lens which resulted in me getting the elmarit version 2 from the 1970's .

I really like my 2 m262 bodies but when they wear out i will look at other options god willing.

Your Black and white sparse landscape pictures and painterly flower images are quite beautiful so i totally take onboard your viewpoint on the summaron with the cutting edge m cameras.

[JCR33]

Saw this one in London back in 2019

 

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.actual offer by New Old Camera, Milano:

 

LEICA-M

28/5.6 SUMMARON-M MATTE BLACK PAINT

Imbsllo, Tappi completi ( anteriore metallico ) , Astuccio morbido, Istruzioni, Certificato di garanzia Leica Camera Italia , Cofanetto, Certificato di controllo. 6-bit code.    Praticamente inusato, pari al nuovo, con 2 anni di garanzia Noc ! Prodotto dal 2019 in solamente 500 esemplari, il Summaron-M prende a modello un obiettivo con attacco a vite prodotto nella fabbrica Leitz a Wetzlar dal 1955 al 1963. La sua firma inconfondibile è quasi impossibile da riprodurre con mezzi digitali e rende questo obiettivo un vero classico che ora rinasce in un'edizione riveduta, mantenendo esattamente quelle stesse proprietà ottiche. Il fatto che non si tratti di una semplice ricostruzione risulta evidente già al primo sguardo: il design del Summaron-M è stato raffinato per arrivare all'essenziale, senza perdere minimamente la personalità del leggendario antenato.   Grazie alla combinazione fra estrema profondità di campo, contrasto naturale, ottima resa dei dettagli e vignettatura evidente, l'obiettivo conferisce alle immagini una personalità unica. Lo schema ottico di 6 elementi in 4 gruppi disposti in modo simmetrico rispetto al diaframma del Leica Summaron-M 28 mm f/5.6 è identico a quello dell'antenato. A differenza del leggendario classico che lo ha ispirato, il modello nuovo dispone di attacco a baionetta M con codifica a 6 bit per consentire la comunicazione tra l'obiettivo e la fotocamera.

Claus

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One of my favourites combo

 

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[Kiwimac]

Last time I looked at Leica NZ (which isn’t really, it’s the distributor’s site skinned to look like a Leica site - there’s no official Leica NZ, we come under Leica Australia) this lens was listed with “Only available in silver in New Zealand” in the title. 
 

There’s no explanation as to why. 

[pedaes]

24 minutes ago, Kiwimac said:

There’s no explanation as to why. 

The Black was a limited edition and sold out. Maybe they were all allocated to Europe and the US.

They rarely seem to be offered as Used items, and when they do there is a big price premium over Silver, although when new I don't think there was any difference, if I remember correctly.

A good buy for those who bought one.

[T25UFO]

Schouten Select have one, mint secondhand, priced at €7,250.  Looks very nice, but pricey.  Lens was limited to 500 and this time Leica didn’t make any more 🙁

Edited September 18 by T25UFO

[thierry40]

I would also recommend you get that special one silver while black is out of order … and use it, this is a fun lens really.

[LeicaS2]

The black one has a silver "base" so if you mount it on a balck body you will see a silver ring at the base which means you have lost an all blcak look. 

Want to go crazy on a pancake lens in black, go to Amazon for this:

https://a.co/d/3EstZQa

 

:Retro classic design: This Brightin Star 28mm F2.8 Leica M- mount lens has black paint with brass design. Embrace a timeless retro appearance that pays homage to classic photography. 

Ultra-thin and compact body: The thickness of the 28mm F2.8 pancake is only 9.9mm, and the focus lever, allows you to adjust focusing distance easily. One of the perfect portable street photography lenses!"

TTartisan had a knock off of the Leica 5.6 28 in black, but I don't see it available anymore except on ebay.

[RMF]

On 9/18/2025 at 4:23 AM, pedaes said:

The Black was a limited edition and sold out. Maybe they were all allocated to Europe and the US.

They rarely seem to be offered as Used items, and when they do there is a big price premium over Silver, although when new I don't think there was any difference, if I remember correctly.

A good buy for those who bought one.

I recall the first black 28mm Summaron was first made available in Japan (I think around 2018’ish). I was traveling in Japan and went to the Leica Ginza Six store to buy one at the introduction but they didn’t have it in stock yet, I didn’t have time to go to the larger Leica Ginza store to see if it was in stock… I probably should have as it’s one I’d like to own as well.  Lately I’ve seen the prices of them drop a bit..but still far more $$ than the silver.