A New Year Wish for the M System

[Mahesh]

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On 2/11/2021 at 9:23 PM, Steven said:

Is it really bad that my wish for the future M is that it has a high quality EVF instead of OVF? 

Oh dear, don't start again... do you want to be told off like some of us have been.. 

[Mahesh]

On 2/12/2021 at 12:17 AM, Steven said:

Mmmm I like my Q2, but I would really prefer an M with an EVF. 

Let me even go one step further and describe you my DREAM camera right now: 

M10D with a 5.76 million dots EVF instead of the OVF/RF, with the option to set focus peaking to low/medium/high. 

Add to that the option to set auto shutoff to 30 secs (current min time is 2 mins), and I've reached Leica Nirvana. 

absolutely and I will add no more than 24 MPs please.

[fotografr]

On 2/12/2021 at 8:22 AM, Steven said:

I prefer death by fire 

Mesquite or charcoal?

[cirke]

There are rumours of a new Visolflex for the M10, maybe the one on the Q2.

[cirke]

On 2/11/2021 at 10:23 PM, Steven said:

Is it really bad that my wish for the future M is that it has a high quality EVF instead of OVF? 

It's the only thing that would make me come back to the M I left after the M240.
and we're not the only ones

[cirke]

3 minutes ago, Steven said:

My sources tell me not to expect anything until the M11. I hope you are right though. 

The  unofficial source comes from Leica France , but northing before september (if the source is correct)

[cirke]

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3 minutes ago, Steven said:

Finally someone courageous enough to admit the ugly truth. 

What did you leave for ? 

Leica CL and Sony A7R3 (I pretty hare this camera)

The store takes back all my Sony and I take an SL2 which should arrive at the end of the week.

I prefer the M but rangefinders are  completely unsuitable for Noctilux lenses and  50mp sensors.

[lct]

The next Visoflex will be outdated at its launch the same way as it was with both M240 and M10 i fear. If wish it could compete with that of the CL at least but i don't hold my breath.

[cirke]

Id like to see the Sony A1 EVF on the next CL2 ... but It would be too good to be true

[fotografr]

1 hour ago, cirke said:

 

...rangefinders are  completely unsuitable for Noctilux lenses and  50mp sensors.

I think a lot of M users, including me, would disagree. In my experience (20+ years of Noctilux M shooting) the problem is not with focusing, but rather with being able to hold the camera perfectly still. With the Noctilux wide open and close to the subject, dof is about 1/8th of an inch. The slightest movement toward or away from what you have focused on will result in your subject being unsharp. The only solution to that is continuous autofocus, not an EVF. 

Edited February 15, 2021 by fotografr

[cirke]

11 minutes ago, fotografr said:

I think a lot of M users, including me, would disagree. In my experience (20+ years of Noctilux M shooting) the problem is not with focusing, but rather with being able to hold the camera perfectly still. With the Noctilux wide open and close to the subject, dof is about 1/8th of an inch. The slightest movement toward or away from what you have focused on will result in your subject being unsharp. The only solution to that is continuous autofocus, not an EVF. 

I had already the Noctilux with M240 , but it was only 24 mp not  50 mp  , and why would you do that when it is easier with an EVF  ?

and now there is a 75 Noctilux 

Edited February 15, 2021 by cirke

[fotografr]

14 minutes ago, cirke said:

I had already the Noctilux with M240 , but it was only 24 mp not  50 mp  , and why would you do that when it is easier with an EVF  ?

and now there is a 75 Noctilux 

I'm using my Noctilux now with a 40MP M10M. I'm not understanding why it would be easier with an EVF. I'm getting along just fine with this combination.

There's a fairly long thread of images taken with the Noctilux on M bodies. It would seem there are a lot of people who also enjoy this combination.

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/297666-show-us-your-noctilux-wide-open-shots/

Edited February 15, 2021 by fotografr

[lct]

As curious as it may sound 50/0.95 is not the most difficult lens as far as RF focusing. Lenses like 90/2, 75/1.4, let alone 75/1.25 , 90/1.5 or 135/3.4, are more demanding. 

[cirke]

Good for them but some would like to have a native EVF or hybrid EVF

and as said I know the noctilux I have posted here on the forum some photos 

[cirke]

1 minute ago, lct said:

As curious as it may sound 50/0.95 is not the most difficult lens as far as RF focusing. Lenses like 90/2, 75/1.4, let alone 75/1.25 , 90/1.5 or 135/3.4, are more demanding. 

I used the 135 apo only with the visoflex 

one of my fav lens 

[pedaes]

4 minutes ago, Steven said:

My source comes from Leica france too 😂

They sound very leaky! 

[fotografr]

1 hour ago, cirke said:

Good for them but some would like to have a native EVF or hybrid EVF

 

That's absolutely fine. Some would like it, some wouldn't. To each his own.

[cirke]

thanks a lot

[fotografr]

2 minutes ago, cirke said:

thanks a lot

You're most welcome.

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[martinot]

On 2/9/2021 at 1:27 PM, feelssadman said:

Does anybody else miss the switch for the drive modes (S-C-T) from the M240? Having to open up the menu to change the drive mode somehow takes the feeling of "reducing it to das Wesentliche" slightly away for me.

I love the hardware drive mode close to the shutter button. Perfect design!