2021 Athens One Challenge - Save The Date

[andybarton]

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On 8/4/2021 at 11:56 AM, StS said:

So, next attempt 8th or 15th October 2022?

Stefan

We will get there in the end...

[andybarton]

I think so. Saturday 15th October 2022 sounds like a good day.

But this year, we are talking Saturday 16th October. 

I’ll think of a “theme” over the next couple of weeks and put up a notice here. 

[farnz]

Does the Not the One Challenge need to have a theme, Andy?

If the answer is "Yes" then perhaps it would be an idea to  announce the theme on the morning of the Challenge to provide a similar One Challenge 'feel' where you have no idea what you're going to shoot until you actually start the Challenge?  Just a suggestion. 😊

Pete.

Edited August 15, 2021 by farnz
Errant "could" removed.

[robert_parker]

Another alternative might be to deliberately not have a theme, as is the case in the normal One Challenge.

if you think about it, having an open challenge of this type, where everyone can participate, creates an opportunity for someone to take a unique photograph that shows their view of the world and possibly also shows their view of their individual location at the time.

it’s potentially very inclusive and encourages entries.  It also hopefully will encourage interest in location based One Challenges in the future.

 

 

[octo]

Very good points, as usual, gentlemen. 

My 2 cents: we should acknowledge the difference between a genuine One Challenge and a Not the One Challenge. Robert, your suggestion is in the true spirit of the Challenge but we are forced to realize this is not THE Challenge; therefore, I'd be inclined to go along with Pete's. The theme need be chosen with care, announced, when, the day before? on the morning of the day? I'd vote for the day before as most of us are normally already 'in country' and using that day to scout the field (and pinpoint places of refreshment). 

I 'll be quite happy with whatever theme you will propose.

Edited August 16, 2021 by octo
spelling mistake

[tom.w.bn]

THE challenge? Not the One Challenge? A theme? 

This is so confusing.

[farnz]

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5 hours ago, octo said:

The theme need be chosen with care, announced, when, the day before?

An excellent point, Phillipe, I was forgetting for a moment that the earth is not flat. 

Pete.

[farnz]

Just to clarify: I am still not supporting the need for a theme.

Pete.

[robert_parker]

2 minutes ago, farnz said:

Just to clarify: I am still not supporting the need for a theme.

Pete.

I agree with Pete - whilst having a forum competition with a theme is good for a separate occasion, a key point for me (and for me part of the brilliance of the concept of the One Challenge) is to operate without a theme, as it encourages a wider range of ideas and also encourages more people to enter.

If our intention is to replicate the one challenge without a venue because we cannot travel, let's do just that and not modify the original concept unnecessarily 

I do think this is a unique opportunity to make something very good from what was otherwise a setback and gives an opportunity for people not only to enter a picture that they feel does them justice, without being funnelled or excluded by a theme but also is likely to reflect their perspective of where they are in the world and in life, so really opens a of of doors.

[andybarton]

2 hours ago, robert_parker said:

If our intention is to replicate the one challenge without a venue because we cannot travel, let's do just that and not modify the original concept unnecessarily 

I agree. 

[StS]

Well, I have no strong opinion either side; just to add that last year's "Not The One Challenge" worked rather well, in my view.

Stefan

[octo]

Pete, sorry: I stand corrected, I misunderstood your point. Mea maxima culpa. I will be quite happy within the normal One Challenge rules.

[christoph_d]

On 8/16/2021 at 2:57 PM, farnz said:

An excellent point, Phillipe, I was forgetting for a moment that the earth is not flat. 

Pete.

... and that it's turtles all the way down?

[christoph_d]

On 8/16/2021 at 6:55 PM, andybarton said:

I agree. 

Me too

[Sandokan]

I have no clue, but I agree. 

Alternative would be:

 - Anyone in Athens does not follow a theme as per The One Challenge (TOC).

 - Anyone participating in The One Challenge Not In Athens (TOCNIA), has to follow the theme.

Confused? Well you will be after this weeks episode of Soap. 

[earleygallery]

I think I was to blame for suggesting a theme last year. My thinking was that when we have the actual challenge the location is automatically the 'theme' and it would give a little focus to a virtual challenge to have a theme for people to think about.

If we want to go with a themeless challenge then that's good too! Looking forward to taking part again (although I won't be travelling to Athens).

Edited August 25, 2021 by earleygallery

[farnz]

1 hour ago, Sandokan said:

Confused? Well you will be after this weeks episode of Soap.

Oh I remember that, Ravi.  I used to watch Soap regularly.  I particularly enjoyed dotty Jessica (Katherine Helmond) and Benson (Robert Guillaume) the butler with additood.

Pete.

[robert_parker]

2 hours ago, Sandokan said:

I have no clue, but I agree. 

Alternative would be:

 - Anyone in Athens does not follow a theme as per The One Challenge (TOC).

 - Anyone participating in The One Challenge Not In Athens (TOCNIA), has to follow the theme.

Confused? Well you will be after this weeks episode of Soap. 

For my esteemed colleague, Confused of Switzerland, this is what happened on previous episodes:

1)  The Challenge normally operates with no stated theme, to maximise creativity

2)  There is often a sense of the location imported to the entries by virtue of being in that particular place, although reflecting this isn't compulsory it often adds to a good entry as it is relevant 

3)  If you have an open competition because you cannot attend a local event, the same applies - there are simply multiple locations, rather than one.

4)  An 'open' competition not only replicates the challenge most accurately but gives a unique opportunity for competitors to tell us about their own take on photography and the world, from the location that they are in at the time.  There are therefore Multiple Relevant Flexible Scenarios Provided by Variable Location to Produce the Most Creative Outcomes (MRFSPVLPMCO)

5)  If you put a theme in over the top as another extra layer, you stifle that lot (F-ITUP) as the original parameters are still in place; there is also a risk of limiting choices and likely discouraging entries from People Who Would Otherwise Be Interested and Attend the 'Real' Event in the Future (PWWOBIA'R'EF)

6)  Many people in Somerset Avoid Being Bitten by a Ferret on a Thursday (MPSABBFT).🐭😉👍

Edited August 26, 2021 by robert_parker

[andybarton]

I think I need an IFA to explain that 😊

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[andybarton]

I will publish an announcement, with all the rules etc, at the weekend.