My M10 arrives tomorrow 😁

[Jeff S]

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11 minutes ago, rivi1969 said:

I am curious, what's the point of buying an M body (beside using telephotos, macros etc) to use it with an electronic VF, wouldn't be better an SL body or the Q instead?

Or CL.

Jeff

[Raid Amin]

I use the RF in my cameras. I try to mainly use Leica lenses. 

"what's the point of buying an M body" ... if you use lenses that are not made by Leica?

[Flyer]

20 hours ago, rivi1969 said:

Zeiss ZM are excellent, but check the Voigtlander vintage line, those lenses are stunning. 

I am curious, what's the point of buying an M body (beside using telephotos, macros etc) to use it with an electronic VF, wouldn't be better an SL body or the Q instead?

That's a very good point, I thought it may help with the transition but I am learning that may not be the case🙄

[lanetomlane]

18 hours ago, Raid Amin said:

 

"what's the point of buying an M body" ... if you use lenses that are not made by Leica?

I used to have the same opinion, but I'd heard such good things about the Zeiss range of ZM lenses that I decided to try one. For years I have used the 35mm Summicron f2 ASPH (and still do), however, I thought I would like something a little faster and after much thought decided to buy the Zeiss 35mm F1.4. In my opinion that lens is as good as the Summicron, even wide open it's sharp from corner to corner.

I was so impressed, that I have since bought the Zeiss f2 50mm so that I can leave a 50 on my M10 and on my Monochrom, instead of having to switch lenses. The Zeiss lenses have different characteristics which from an artistic point of view is great.

I agree in that 95% I focus using the rangefinder but I do find the Visoflex handy for low perspective shots and for fine focusing my Noctilux 0.95 when used fully open.

Best regards

https://photographybytomlane.com

[rivi1969]

 

18 hours ago, Raid Amin said:

I use the RF in my cameras. I try to mainly use Leica lenses. 

"what's the point of buying an M body" ... if you use lenses that are not made by Leica?

There are superb lenses from Zeiss and Voigtlander that might be even better than many Leica's, (I am leaving 7Artisans outside) especially the latest versions of the super fast CV's and their Vintage line are amazing, so why not? 

[intermediatic]

A few points. The VF helps immensely when focusing on the 40MP sensor. Some people think the sensor outperforms their lenses. No but it will outperform the ability of many folks using the rangefinder. It also helps to get a sense for the exposure through the lens at stopped-down aperture. You will also likely find it much easier to go back and forth between RF and VF than RF and rear screen. Finally the other models you cited do not have the same performance as the M10-R with M glass, especially at the wider angles.

But back to the thread topic, still waiting for the M-10R over here!

Edited July 21, 2020 by intermediatic

[sanadsaad]

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Congrats! If you’re looking for a small, sharp lens that doesn’t break the bank, you can’t go wrong with the Zeiss Biogon 2.8. I have been using it with my M240 mostly for street/everyday photography and absolutely love it. Heard good things about the 35mm elmarit and voigtlander as well but never used them. 

[Raid Amin]

19 hours ago, rivi1969 said:

 

There are superb lenses from Zeiss and Voigtlander that might be even better than many Leica's, (I am leaving 7Artisans outside) especially the latest versions of the super fast CV's and their Vintage line are amazing, so why not? 

I know this fact. My comment was meant to bring this out. I own Zeiss and CV lenses too. I would not say they are "better", but "different".

[Raid Amin]

16 hours ago, sanadsaad said:

Congrats! If you’re looking for a small, sharp lens that doesn’t break the bank, you can’t go wrong with the Zeiss Biogon 2.8. I have been using it with my M240 mostly for street/everyday photography and absolutely love it. Heard good things about the 35mm elmarit and voigtlander as well but never used them. 

The Zeiss 35mm/2 is also a excellent lens. 

[Raid Amin]

19 hours ago, lanetomlane said:

I used to have the same opinion, but I'd heard such good things about the Zeiss range of ZM lenses that I decided to try one. For years I have used the 35mm Summicron f2 ASPH (and still do), however, I thought I would like something a little faster and after much thought decided to buy the Zeiss 35mm F1.4. In my opinion that lens is as good as the Summicron, even wide open it's sharp from corner to corner.

I was so impressed, that I have since bought the Zeiss f2 50mm so that I can leave a 50 on my M10 and on my Monochrom, instead of having to switch lenses. The Zeiss lenses have different characteristics which from an artistic point of view is great.

I agree in that 95% I focus using the rangefinder but I do find the Visoflex handy for low perspective shots and for fine focusing my Noctilux 0.95 when used fully open.

Best regards

https://photographybytomlane.com

I view the availability of Zeiss and CV lenses in M mount as a very fortunate thing for M users.

[rivi1969]

5 hours ago, Raid Amin said:

The Zeiss 35mm/2 is also a excellent lens. 

I have one and you are right, is very good. I wish it was a tad shorter, but the IQ is great.

[intermediatic]

Back to the topic at hand (availablity! maybe use other threads for lens questions?). I note that my Monochrom got to Bergen County Camera on the 21st of February, which indicates it'll be after mid-August before I see my M-10R, but who knows, anything is possible. 

[kivis]

I have an M10 coming in tomorrow (I hope). My CV 35mm f1.5, Summi 50mm f2 and my Tele elmart 90mm f2.8 await.

[grahamc]

8 hours ago, kivis said:

I have an M10 coming in tomorrow (I hope). My CV 35mm f1.5, Summi 50mm f2 and my Tele elmart 90mm f2.8 await.

Great stuff ! 

[kivis]

M10 arrived!!!!!

[Photon42]

Have fun - still a great camera.

[jakontil]

9 hours ago, kivis said:

M10 arrived!!!!!

Congrats and enjoy! 🍻

[kivis]