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[bags27]

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10 minutes ago, Daniel81 said:

This is actually an effect I find the Leica SL system with SL lenses is prone to which I am not crazy about (its just an opinion) . . . . I find the hyper-separation of the subject from the surroundings almost makes it look like he was cut out from another photo using scissors and pasted onto this background.  I've seen it occasionally in other camera and lens brands but I find it is more common with the SL system and I find myself trying to understand what maximises the effect and working to minimise the effect.

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Edited January 10, 2020 by bags27

[thighslapper]

12 minutes ago, Daniel81 said:

This is actually an effect I find the Leica SL system with SL lenses is prone to which I am not crazy about (its just an opinion) . . . . I find the hyper-separation of the subject from the surroundings almost makes it look like he was cut out from another photo using scissors and pasted onto this background.  I've seen it occasionally in other camera and lens brands but I find it is more common with the SL system and I find myself trying to understand what maximises the effect and working to minimise the effect.

...... errr......but this is the mythical 'Leica Look' generated by high fall off in contrast either side of the focus point and was deliberately designed into the lens to give an f1.4 look at f2. This is actually what you paid all that extra money for .....  

[bags27]

18 minutes ago, thighslapper said:

...... errr......but this is the mythical 'Leica Look' generated by high fall off in contrast either side of the focus point and was deliberately designed into the lens to give an f1.4 look at f2. This is actually what you paid all that extra money for .....  

I suspect the "problem" here is that there is no good frame of reference to the accordion player's right (our left) to give it perspective. Shooting wide open with this lens presents challenges similar to the Noctilux. It produces great effects....sometimes.

[Daniel81]

1 hour ago, thighslapper said:

...... errr......but this is the mythical 'Leica Look' generated by high fall off in contrast either side of the focus point and was deliberately designed into the lens to give an f1.4 look at f2. This is actually what you paid all that extra money for .....  

Yeah, I hear you.   I am learning that as a  new Leica owner.  I think there are ways to 'harness' it 'modestly' which I am still playing with.

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SL2 90 Cron SL ... great portrait lens!

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A church in the fog - SL 2 and 24/90.

 

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SL-2 with Novoflex adapted Pentax  150-450 at 450mm (ISO 400 1/800 sec)

 

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…with a snipers triggerfinger.

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Summilux-M 35 ASPH @f/1.4, ISO 5000

 

 

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SL2+75mm-SL, 

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[Sohail]

12 hours ago, Daniel81 said:

This is actually an effect I find the Leica SL system with SL lenses is prone to which I am not crazy about (its just an opinion) . . . . I find the hyper-separation of the subject from the surroundings almost makes it look like he was cut out from another photo using scissors and pasted onto this background.  I've seen it occasionally in other camera and lens brands but I find it is more common with the SL system and I find myself trying to understand what maximises the effect and working to minimise the effect.

It's an interesting observation. Aside from the optics of the lens, the rim lighting on the subject also enhances the separation and three-dimensionality of the image. Is the effect aesthetically pleasing? Subjective of course. For me, the background bokeh is gorgeous. A lot depends on the story you're trying to convey.

[Sohail]

12 hours ago, thighslapper said:

...... errr......but this is the mythical 'Leica Look' generated by high fall off in contrast either side of the focus point and was deliberately designed into the lens to give an f1.4 look at f2. This is actually what you paid all that extra money for .....  

Here's a shot of the 50mm Summilux-SL I shot wide open on the same day with a similar level of separation:

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[LocalHero1953]

The Apo-Summicron-M 90 is capable of similar effects. But it is rare for that lens to be shot wide open on the street because the hit rate is so low, with such a narrow depth of focus and manual focus. Yes, I hear what Leica says about steep drop off from the focal plane, but I think fast AF has much more to do with seeing this effect more often recently in photo threads.

Edited January 11, 2020 by LocalHero1953

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35mm f1.4 FLE

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SL2 and 75mm Summicron-SL wide open

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Summilux M 1.4/35 FLE + macro adapter M

 

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17 hours ago, Daniel81 said:

This is actually an effect I find the Leica SL system with SL lenses is prone to which I am not crazy about (its just an opinion) . . . . I find the hyper-separation of the subject from the surroundings almost makes it look like he was cut out from another photo using scissors and pasted onto this background.  I've seen it occasionally in other camera and lens brands but I find it is more common with the SL system and I find myself trying to understand what maximises the effect and working to minimise the effect.

I love this effect 

maybe stop it down a nudge

Edited January 11, 2020 by hillavoider

[scott kirkpatrick]

I like the separation effect, too.  Even the 35 SL SC can do it.  Here it is toned down slightly by an aperture of 2.8:

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8 hours ago, Sohail said:

Here's a shot of the 50mm Summilux-SL I shot wide open on the same day with a similar level of separation:

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I think the separation here works because the main subject is so very interesting. He really has the strong character to carry this. And the background is perfect: anonymous people who look far less interesting than he. It's like a TV commercial. 

On another thread, below, there's discussion of some of the hyperreal aesthetic produced by the SL2. I guess it's better to have more, rather than fewer, aesthetic choices in the tool one chooses. If the photographer appreciates the range of possible outcomes and uses them appropriately, then it's certainly a good thing. The challenge remains the same it's always been: to explore and get used to any camera and lens.

 

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[Sohail]

47 minutes ago, bags27 said:

 

On another thread, below, there's discussion of some of the hyperreal aesthetic produced by the SL2. I guess it's better to have more, rather than fewer, aesthetic choices in the tool one chooses. If the photographer appreciates the range of possible outcomes and uses them appropriately, then it's certainly a good thing. The challenge remains the same it's always been: to explore and get used to any camera and lens.

 

Keep in mind that these last few photos were shot with the Lecia SL1. This one below was shot with the 90mm Summicron-SL on the SL1:

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I personally don't see it as being at all overly sharpened. On the point about hyper-real separation, I've had a think about it and I'm not sure I share the sentiment. This sort of rendering of the Summicron-SL works at least for me -- with great storytelling potential.

This portrait below, however, was shot with the 75mm Summicron-SL on the Leica SL2 wide open. Again I don't see the oversharpening or the hyper-real separation (maybe little to separate here!):

Once again, it renders (to my eyes) very pleasantly. A very minor issue is the failure of the APO at the top of the hair.

All very subjective of course!

 

Edited January 11, 2020 by Sohail