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vor 54 Minuten schrieb Boojay:

……can't quite understand why I am enjoying this camera so much.

i think it are the beautiful colours. I had testwise the FP once and enjoyed the colours too.

For my big Hands the camera was a bit too small and i missed a folding screen and a mechanical shutter.
The size, nonfolding screen and the tiny batteries are what annoyes me at my Sigma Merrills. But this colours…
I am curious what kind of camera Sigma will build around its new foveon 35mm sensor. I hope it is something like the Lumix S5…

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[bags27]

Sigma does have great "color science." I still use the dp2 and dp3 Merrills. Stunning colors. I know it's an entirely different sensor, but IMO this is what Sigma does best--along with Leica and especially Hasselblad.

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vor 34 Minuten schrieb bags27:

I still use the dp2 and dp3 Merrills.

Same combo i have…
unfortunately the DP3 has a big spot of dust on its sensor.
But it is worth to stamp it in PS…

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A violet, bought in the food store and nursed for a year.

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fp with 50mm lens at 1 meter distance set at f/2

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1 hour ago, jankap said:

A violet, bought in the food store and nursed for a year.

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fp with 50mm lens at 1 meter distance set at f/2

Lovely, we call these Cyclamen and well done for keeping it a year🙂.   Apparently they are also known as Alpine Violets, very pretty and delicate looking plants whatever you call them. Do you use you Fp with an EVF at all?

 

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2 hours ago, Boojay said:

Lovely, we call these Cyclamen and well done for keeping it a year🙂.   Apparently they are also known as Alpine Violets, very pretty and delicate looking plants whatever you call them. Do you use you Fp with an EVF at all?

 

Thank you for the "flowers". Alpen Veilchen in German, in Dutch Cyclam and in the south of Italy you can find them in the landscape.

No, I use the fp plain. Sometimes with a Hoodman loupe. More than that, I miss the flip screen of my Sony.

I bought this lens last month, The bokey is surprisingly nice, ok "dreamlens".

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Sigma 18-50 FpL

Sigma 90 2.8 FpL

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4 hours ago, Boojay said:

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Sigma 18-50 FpL

Sigma 90 2.8 FpL

Those are so lovely, Jayne. I'd say it's the camera, but I know that you can spin this magic with just about any kit! 

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32 minutes ago, bags27 said:

Those are so lovely, Jayne. I'd say it's the camera, but I know that you can spin this magic with just about any kit! 

Thanks for the compliment Ken but I have to say I am gobsmacked by this camera and the files, yes it has shortcomings but it's not in image quality.😊

Edited September 14, 2022 by Boojay
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[bags27]

2 hours ago, Boojay said:

Thanks for the compliment Ken but I have to say I am gobsmacked by this camera and the files, yes it has shortcomings but it's not in image quality.😊

I'd be very interested in your impression of how it plays with wider M lenses. That's seems to be the test for compatibilityy with the full Leica line. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by bags27

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3 minutes ago, bags27 said:

I'd be very interested in your impression of how it plays with wider M lenses. That's seems to be the test for compatibilityy with the full Leica line. 

From my experience with the 28 lux the fp-L is much, much better than the Panasonic S5 but there's still significant color drift in the corners. 

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5 minutes ago, gotium said:

From my experience with the 28 lux the fp-L is much, much better than the Panasonic S5 but there's still significant color drift in the corners. 

Thanks for that! That's encouraging.

Even the SL2 has been shown to have smearing with certain lenses below 35. 

 

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4 hours ago, bags27 said:

I'd be very interested in your impression of how it plays with wider M lenses. That's seems to be the test for compatibilityy with the full Leica line. 

I'll have a play Ken.  I'm not really much of a wide angle shooter, but I have the 24 Elmar, and 28mm CV Ultron, I'll see if I can find some suitable subjects in the next day or two and have a look.   I wasn't ever much of a fan of using M lenses on the SL2 when I had it, not the smaller ones anyway, always felt unbalanced and to my mind looked a bit silly.  Yes, I know, it's the results that matter🙃.. but CL always a better choice to me.  I've used the FpL with the 50mm Summilux (example below), CV 75mm and 90 APO, all good so far.   I'm just shocked by how much I'm enjoying a 61mps Camera, with a ridiculous add-on EVF that's such faff to fit I can't be bothered with it.   I didn't think I'd buy another camera without IBIS, and given that having pre-ordered the FP, I sent it back the day it arrived, what's happening with me???  

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On 9/14/2022 at 6:45 PM, bags27 said:

I'd be very interested in your impression of how it plays with wider M lenses. That's seems to be the test for compatibilityy with the full Leica line. 

Here you go Ken.  My thoughts.  Just had a walk around the fields behind home with the CV 28mm Ultron and the 24mm Elmar f3/8.  Played with various apertures, f/2 to f/8 focussing close and at infinity.  Honestly, I would use either lens without a thought of loss of IQ (compared to using on my M10R), on the FpL.  That's me though.  I am no Landscape shooter and I don't examine every file at pixel level.  All I did with these images in Lightroom was minimal processing, left with Standard or Landscape colour setting, adding the 28 Sumicron Asph corrections to the CV 28mm files, and the Elmar corrections to the 24mm files.   Didn't sharpen at all, added a bit of a mask to the sky on the 24mm files just because the images were crying out for it.  Having said that, I would more likely find myself chucking the Panasonic 20-60 on the Fpl, cost me less than £200 from someone selling their kit lens so like new, sharp, light and just an easy lens. Or, the Sigma 18-50 DC lens because its even smaller and the Fpl still give you around 25mps, more than enough for most occasions for me.  

Whether my current feelings of enjoyment using the Fpl continue we will see, wasn't a camera I saw myself bonding with at all, but its just fun in a very quirky way.

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CV Ultron F/.2

CV Ultron f/8 Infinity

24mm Elmar f/5.6

24mm Elmar f/8 (ish)

 

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3 hours ago, Boojay said:

Here you go Ken.  My thoughts.  Just had a walk around the fields behind home with the CV 28mm Ultron and the 24mm Elmar f3/8.  Played with various apertures, f/2 to f/8 focussing close and at infinity.  Honestly, I would use either lens without a thought of loss of IQ (compared to using on my M10R), on the FpL.  That's me though.  I am no Landscape shooter and I don't examine every file at pixel level.  All I did with these images in Lightroom was minimal processing, left with Standard or Landscape colour setting, adding the 28 Sumicron Asph corrections to the CV 28mm files, and the Elmar corrections to the 24mm files.   Didn't sharpen at all, added a bit of a mask to the sky on the 24mm files just because the images were crying out for it.  Having said that, I would more likely find myself chucking the Panasonic 20-60 on the Fpl, cost me less than £200 from someone selling their kit lens so like new, sharp, light and just an easy lens. Or, the Sigma 18-50 DC lens because its even smaller and the Fpl still give you around 25mps, more than enough for most occasions for me.  

Whether my current feelings of enjoyment using the Fpl continue we will see, wasn't a camera I saw myself bonding with at all, but its just fun in a very quirky way.

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CV Ultron F/.2

CV Ultron f/8 Infinity

24mm Elmar f/5.6

24mm Elmar f/8 (ish)

 

Thanks so much, Jayne. Those are really lovely!

I was close to buying an fp/L at one point, mostly for scanning film, but especially to have one that is an L mount. In the end, I didn't because I really need a hinged LCD. Just picked up a used S1R, which I, surprisingly like. Perhaps it's in comparison to the Fuji FGX-R interface, which I felt required an advanced degree in cryptography. Thanks again! I'm watching Sigma closely as I love their colors.

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Is anyone using the fp or fp-L with one of the small APS-C lenses like the Leica 18mm 2.8?

It might be foolish but I’m drawn to the idea of the fp with a pancake… 

fp-L with the 18 would still give 26mp and fit in the coat pocket, give a lot of options for video and AF - and high mp count options.

Still a $2600 setup… so probably there’s better ideas out there. And maybe cropping the fp sensor is a bummer. 

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1 hour ago, Jojotheking said:

Is anyone using the fp or fp-L with one of the small APS-C lenses like the Leica 18mm 2.8?

It might be foolish but I’m drawn to the idea of the fp with a pancake… 

fp-L with the 18 would still give 26mp and fit in the coat pocket, give a lot of options for video and AF - and high mp count options.

Still a $2600 setup… so probably there’s better ideas out there. And maybe cropping the fp sensor is a bummer. 

Yes, I think if you looked through this thread you would find many examples. I use all my TL lenses on the FpL 18/23/35/60 and Sigma 18-50 (my favourite on the fpl) makes a good small package and resolution is more than enough for most purposes.   I already had the lenses for my CL, if I was starting fresh I would favour the Sigma Contemporary L mounts, but if you forgo the added EVF and use either the 18 or 23 TL the Fpl is a very small/neat/capable camera.

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Boojay

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54 minutes ago, Boojay said:

Yes, I think if you looked through this thread you would find many examples. I use all my TL lenses on the FpL 18/23/35/60 and Sigma 18-50 (my favourite on the fpl) makes a good small package and resolution is more than enough for most purposes.   I already had the lenses for my CL, if I was starting fresh I would favour the Sigma Contemporary L mounts, but if you forgo the added EVF and use either the 18 or 23 TL the Fpl is a very small/neat/capable camera.

 

 

 

I had been holding onto my TL lenses in hopes of a Sigma Foveon FF. But I've since sold them off, because I do think the Sigma lenses are terrific as well and FF. Now, we have to have the actual Foveon camera!