Guest Posted October 2, 2019 Share #41 Posted October 2, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Voxen said: Which serious photographer wouldn’t see the difference between your smartphone and Q photos? Its day and night. Dream on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Voxen Posted October 2, 2019 Share #42 Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: But those who aren't serious photographers, but look at photographs for other reasons than the esoteric criteria complained of here, might very well appreciate the Huawei on the same level as the Q2. If you only take photos for appreciation by serious photographers (I try hard not to be one) then of course you won't be satisfied with a smartphone. No surprises here. No offense but why would you own a Leica Q if you are not seriously involved into photography? Don't get me wrong, I'm taking photos with my iPhone because its convenient, I have no problems using smartphones for photography. But comparing smartphone photos with high end dedicated cameras photos is just non sense. Original poster speaks about sharpness, but sharpness is just a bit among many aspects in photography. The demonstrated smartphone image is flat while the Q one has depth, 3D look, finer tones and colors. Maybe one day smartphones will take over dedicated cameras and lenses but we are not there yet. Edited October 2, 2019 by Voxen 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2019 Share #43 Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Voxen said: No offense but why would you own a Leica Q if you are not seriously involved into photography? Don't get me wrong, I'm taking photos with my iPhone because its convenient, I have no problems using smartphones for photography. But comparing smartphone photos with high end dedicated cameras photos is just non sense. Original poster speaks about sharpness, but sharpness is just a bit among many aspects in photography. The demonstrated smartphone image is flat while the Q one has depth, 3D look, finer tones and colors. Maybe one day smartphones will take over dedicated cameras and lenses but we are not there yet. I think we are Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 2, 2019 Share #44 Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Voxen said: No offense but why would you own a Leica Q if you are not seriously involved into photography? Don't get me wrong, I'm taking photos with my iPhone because its convenient, I have no problems using smartphones for photography. But comparing smartphone photos with high end dedicated cameras photos is just non sense. Original poster speaks about sharpness, but sharpness is just a bit among many aspects in photography. The demonstrated smartphone image is flat while the Q one has depth, 3D look, finer tones and colors. Maybe one day smartphones will take over dedicated cameras and lenses but we are not there yet. No offence taken! Yes, there's more to a photo than sharpness. There is composition, subject matter and the story, interest and a whole load of other things that are nothing to do with technical quality. Some of them relate to the actual equipment you use, and whether it allows you to get your photo in the first place. Beyond a certain level of technical quality, all cameras are equal AFAIC (and for certain uses smartphones are there IMO) . Beyond that, it's all about the photographer. I've seen too many pictures, here and elsewhere, which are technically perfect but boring! Edit: mind you, I only responded here because I'm a bit contrariwise. I'm not trying to say that Neil's photo is important for its subject matter or interest, but the point he made was a valid one, IMO, give or take a few issues😉 Edited October 2, 2019 by LocalHero1953 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturkel Posted October 2, 2019 Share #45 Posted October 2, 2019 Very intresting topic I missed here. I also purchased the Iphone 11 with the new camera and looking forward to the release of software which will allow the images of all three lenses to be combined into one image with much more detail. It wasn't all that long ago I was shooting weddings with 6 meg cameras and very pleased with the results. I also shoot raw files with the iphone cameras and have had great results. I would love to see a blind test 10 images posted and have 5 from the Q and 5 from the phone and see who can pick which is which. I bet it would be an eye openner. Cheers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted October 2, 2019 Share #46 Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, NW67 said: I think we are To paraphrase Simon & Garfunkel . . . a man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest . . . Have to admit making a phone call on a Q2 is difficult . . . maybe later in a firmware upgrade 🤣 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted October 2, 2019 Share #47 Posted October 2, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) To me the Q2 image looks more 3d and much better and natural colors in your comparison shot. I made my decision before reading which image from which source. What I found out is small sensor deliver very sharp images. The difference is all about color, 3d and natural look (small sensor images often look oversharpened) for my eyes. I think this is obvious even when comparing m43 with FF. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxen Posted October 2, 2019 Share #48 Posted October 2, 2019 3 hours ago, NW67 said: I think we are I don't. Just try to capture nightscape photos handheld with both cameras and post the results. I can't wait to see them Smartphone photography is "ok" under perfect lightning conditions, but as soon as ISO gets high the image quality becomes terrible. Insane noise on blurry images. Not surprizing though, how could an over-pixellized and tiny sensor compete with a full frame one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted October 2, 2019 Share #49 Posted October 2, 2019 Neil, I think you are really cool. One day you schlepp around a H6D because the smaller medium format sensor dont cut it and the other day you explain us all we need is a chinese cell phone. 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2019 Share #50 Posted October 2, 2019 8 hours ago, tom0511 said: Neil, I think you are really cool. One day you schlepp around a H6D because the smaller medium format sensor dont cut it and the other day you explain us all we need is a chinese cell phone. The Q2 is the best compact digital camera period, as for the cell phones they are obviously just that and could and never will compete with a Q2 except maybe the Huawei Pro 30 as that has the Leica magic Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted October 3, 2019 Share #51 Posted October 3, 2019 Some flowers are rainbow? Sure. How about puppy or some close up on greasy food? And drooling toddler with food all over the face. iPhone or Hsomething are great for it. It is Facebook high style. Why waste time with camera for it? Any forum will take it. At this puny size of the image. Instagram is all about it (plus politics ) I have seen some good street photography taken with the phone on it. But using OP language - look at those images at one to one size and shite will happen with phony picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted October 3, 2019 Share #52 Posted October 3, 2019 Honestly the only thing the Huawei image has going for it is better composition. The Q2 image is miles better in every other way, even at this tiny image size. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted October 3, 2019 Share #53 Posted October 3, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 3:07 AM, NW67 said: I think we are Perhaps. My issue one of ergonomics. In good light I can probably take a reasonable image with both phone and Q -- if I can stop from jiggling the phone when trying to trip the shutter. Phone shake is an issue for me, much more so than camera shake with the Q (or my M, or Canon 7D, etc). The ergonomics are just wrong. I had the same issue with an old Canon super thin P&S many years ago. My wife could take great pics with that camera. Me, not so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 4, 2019 Share #54 Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 1:24 PM, sturkel said: Very intresting topic I missed here. I also purchased the Iphone 11 with the new camera and looking forward to the release of software which will allow the images of all three lenses to be combined into one image with much more detail. It wasn't all that long ago I was shooting weddings with 6 meg cameras and very pleased with the results. I also shoot raw files with the iphone cameras and have had great results. I would love to see a blind test 10 images posted and have 5 from the Q and 5 from the phone and see who can pick which is which. I bet it would be an eye openner. Cheers Posted through the web, possibly. With real photographs? A blind horse could do the test. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 4, 2019 Share #55 Posted October 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, jaapv said: Posted through the web, possibly. With real photographs? A blind horse could do the test. Perhaps if the subjects were the same. But different cameras let you take different shots. That's why people want more than one camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike3996 Posted October 4, 2019 Share #56 Posted October 4, 2019 You can be a serious photographer and shoot a mobile phone, if you know your target medium. FB/Instagram/equivalent low-resolution place, your tool doesn't have to a sledgehammer if you only want to drive in some regular nails. But the OP makes the mistake of miscommunicating about his own favorite media. He may or may not assume that everybody has the same low-resolution medium in mind -- but that is lost in what was said or left unsaid. Subsequent replies run with their own assumptions, such is the life on the internet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted October 5, 2019 Share #57 Posted October 5, 2019 The iPhone 11 Pro Max has a tiny sensor with 12 MP. It costs about the same as the Fuji X100F, which has an APS-C sensor with 24 MP. My advice: Keep your old phone and make photos with a real camera. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 5, 2019 Share #58 Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Those who are on Facebook may have seen this portrait by Mick Yates of his mother, taken with an iphone. Mick is a talented Leica photographer. Edited October 6, 2019 by LocalHero1953 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted October 6, 2019 Share #59 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) I am and prefer to be a FF shooter with M240/APO50/FLE35, and an avid interest in Q2 technology. I speculate that we could be in scenario similar to that of the HCB era. Whereby in that time many must have thought his “small” 35mm format M was a passing fad and he’ll see the light and step up to a real camera, ie MF or larger. There is no doubt today that people buy more micro sensor cameras than “APS to FF” sized sensors. Be interesting to see in 10yrs, if the FF is the dinosaur and phone cameras rule the photographic world, and leave us geriatrics searching the “used section” of ebay for vintage FF gear. Or maybe Leica could get smarter, and include support for e-sim and appropriate HW/SW to allow the next generation of M or Q camera to make phone calls, access FB and instagram... Edited October 6, 2019 by dugby 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Wales Posted October 6, 2019 Share #60 Posted October 6, 2019 May be of use............https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4431812 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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