Jeff S Posted October 22, 2019 Share #101 Posted October 22, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 minutes ago, dkmoore said: Yup. and Leica Rumors claims Dec. 1 for cameras... Compact cameras, they wrote, which would seem more like D-lux, not M. But even this wouldn’t be consistent with tariff policy, as I understand it for now. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dkmoore Posted October 22, 2019 Share #102 Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeff S said: Compact cameras, they wrote, which would seem more like D-lux, not M. But even this wouldn’t be consistent with tariff policy, as I understand it for now. Jeff got it. I missed that detail. Thanks for clarifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 21, 2019 Share #103 Posted November 21, 2019 For the first time in a long time, Tamarkin Camera in Chicago has an MM1with the new sensor and a 1-year warranty for US$3000. Pretty decent price 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 21, 2019 Share #104 Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, james.liam said: For the first time in a long time, Tamarkin Camera in Chicago has an MM1with the new sensor and a 1-year warranty for US$3000. Pretty decent price Ex+ condition, with handgrip and extra battery. Tamarkin typically prices used gear on the high side relative to other dealers, but generally rates conservatively. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted November 22, 2019 Share #105 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) On 11/21/2019 at 4:03 AM, james.liam said: For the first time in a long time, Tamarkin Camera in Chicago has an MM1with the new sensor and a 1-year warranty for US$3000. Pretty decent price USD 3000 conservatively priced resale value including dealers commission for a sensor replaced MM1. Hm, if you have got a MM1 with this "sensor eating up itself" issue and invest the money for a sensor exchange, this will monkey hammer the MM1 down to about M8 resale value territory for you. Gosh! Edited November 22, 2019 by Arrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 22, 2019 Share #106 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Arrow said: USD 3000 conservatively priced resale value including dealers commission for a sensor replaced MM1. Hm, if you have got a MM1 with this "sensor eating up itself" issue and invest the money for a sensor exchange, this will monkey hammer the MM1 down to about M8 resale value territory for you. Gosh! Does seem that way. Only those who availed themselves of free sensor replacement benefit from the residual value. Anyone after the fact is stuck with a paperweight. Edited November 23, 2019 by james.liam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted November 23, 2019 Share #107 Posted November 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, james.liam said: Does seem that way. Only those who availed themselves of free sensor replacement benefit from the residual value. Anyone after the fact is stuck with a paperweight. A particular killjoy in it´s own right 😪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayD28 Posted November 23, 2019 Share #108 Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 9:03 PM, james.liam said: For the first time in a long time, Tamarkin Camera in Chicago has an MM1with the new sensor and a 1-year warranty for US$3000. Pretty decent price I called Tamakin because their rating system is conservative. The MM1 includes the handgrip but not the original baseplate. They have a M8 baseplate that matches the MM1 but it's an extra $200. Sensor replaced in 2018 and just came back from Leica for some adjustments and repair. I did not ask the nature of the repair. About 15,000 actuations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted November 25, 2019 Share #109 Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 7:21 AM, RayD28 said: I called Tamakin because their rating system is conservative. The MM1 includes the handgrip but not the original baseplate. They have a M8 baseplate that matches the MM1 but it's an extra $200. Sensor replaced in 2018 and just came back from Leica for some adjustments and repair. I did not ask the nature of the repair. About 15,000 actuations. I think the "reasonable" range at the moment is $3k-$3.5k. Had that same camera had the baseplate and 5k actuations it probably would have been priced at $3,400.00. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LichtUndDunkelheit Posted November 28, 2019 Share #110 Posted November 28, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 4:31 AM, fotografr said: I wonder if word has spread about the exceptional quality of the CCD versus the CMOS? No clue; I never wanted anything but the CCD Ms, both color and monochrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 28, 2019 Share #111 Posted November 28, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 7:51 AM, silverchrome said: VAT is charged on used goods in the UK but, unlike new items. you can't reclaim the VAT. That's because VAT is only payable on the profit that the dealer makes on the used item. That is the case only if the seller is using the VAT margin scheme. There is no obligation for a VAT registered business to sell used goods under that scheme and many businesses (typically those selling to professionals or other businesses) will sell used goods subject to normal VAT rules and issue an appropriate invoice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 28, 2019 Share #112 Posted November 28, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 3:36 PM, dkmoore said: If you look at Leica UKs website there is no VAT on any used gear. It may be a country by country tax as you mention. No, you are wrong. You are confusing the margin scheme (where VAT is only levied on the dealer margin and not specified on the invoice) with general VAT rules. There is no distinction between used or new goods for the purposes of VAT in the UK other than in the specific case of goods sold (usually to consumers) under the margin scheme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted November 28, 2019 Share #113 Posted November 28, 2019 7 hours ago, wattsy said: No, you are wrong. You are confusing the margin scheme (where VAT is only levied on the dealer margin and not specified on the invoice) with general VAT rules. There is no distinction between used or new goods for the purposes of VAT in the UK other than in the specific case of goods sold (usually to consumers) under the margin scheme. Yes, I know. you are weeks late on schooling me on VAT. The way they advertise it is suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceVentura1986 Posted November 29, 2019 Share #114 Posted November 29, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 10:03 PM, james.liam said: For the first time in a long time, Tamarkin Camera in Chicago has an MM1with the new sensor and a 1-year warranty for US$3000. Pretty decent price That is a deal. I’d snag that up if I didn’t already have one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted November 29, 2019 Share #115 Posted November 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, AceVentura1986 said: That is a deal. I’d snag that up if I didn’t already have one. Indeed. Tamarkin grades conservatively and only sells the best quality used items in my experience with them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmoore Posted December 16, 2019 Share #116 Posted December 16, 2019 Leica Miami has a MM1 with new sensor with 7k actuations listed at $4k. Interesting pricing..maybe the pricing is going up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted December 16, 2019 Share #117 Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, dkmoore said: Leica Miami has a MM1 with new sensor with 7k actuations listed at $4k. Interesting pricing..maybe the pricing is going up. Maybe they are keeping a close eye on the Leica refurbished program and pricing accordingly. I was lucky - my refurb had just 114 actuations and price was €3,500 with a choice of leather colour. I also chose chrome - not many MM1s in chrome. Edited December 16, 2019 by T25UFO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwatson1234 Posted December 16, 2019 Share #118 Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) I've (likely rightly so) been advised on this forum to not do what I'm thinking about doing - selling my MM1 with an updated (low actuation) sensor. While it was gone for ~6 months for replacement, I shot more and more B&W film, and I want to trade in/up for a Leica MP/MA. I find myself still shooting film and not picking the MM1 up. Not, in any way, to hijack this thread, but along the subject title - anyone have any thoughts what I should be looking to get for it on a valuation metric? I'm in the U.S. But, I don't think the market where I am is that large for the camera, and remote retailers want to pay a (what seems to me) hefty discount to purchase the camera body from me. Edited December 16, 2019 by drwatson1234 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted December 17, 2019 Share #119 Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, drwatson1234 said: I've (likely rightly so) been advised on this forum to not do what I'm thinking about doing - selling my MM1 with an updated (low actuation) sensor. While it was gone for ~6 months for replacement, I shot more and more B&W film, and I want to trade in/up for a Leica MP/MA. I find myself still shooting film and not picking the MM1 up. Not, in any way, to hijack this thread, but along the subject title - anyone have any thoughts what I should be looking to get for it on a valuation metric? I'm in the U.S. But, I don't think the market where I am is that large for the camera, and remote retailers want to pay a (what seems to me) hefty discount to purchase the camera body from me. I'm lost in translation. Are you asking for how much we should pay for your MM1? If so, open www.ebay.com and search for MM1 with filter "Sold" only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted December 17, 2019 Share #120 Posted December 17, 2019 Or just sell it on eBay and let the market decide, especially at Christmas time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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