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On 8/30/2019 at 2:56 AM, jonnyboy said:

I want a good 35mm lens not really the 7Artisans etc otherwise I would keep my Nokton 35 1.4

I have both the v1 & 2 Nokton 1.4, and have had very nice results from them. Of course pixel-peeping they don’t match the sharpness of my other 35s, but the build and handling are excellent.

The 7Artisans f2.0 IS sharp, has small size, good handling, and is amazing for it’s price. In careful tests I can see the focus isn’t perfect over the entire distance range, but in practical use I don’t notice it. I could rely on this for most use - although it has about as much distortion as the Nokton 1.4.

Still, most of the time I end up using my Summarit 2.5 over these, my 2 Summicrons, or my Zeiss 2.0. It just does everything well.

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On 8/30/2019 at 3:56 AM, jonnyboy said:

I want a good 35mm lens not really the 7Artisans etc otherwise I would keep my Nokton 35 1.4

 

On 8/30/2019 at 12:05 PM, jonnyboy said:

I think the extra stops are quite handy - especially when shooting on film. I will use it mainly with my Monochrom 1 but also with my M6.
 

Your only choice is Lux 35 ASPH it seems.

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7 hours ago, jonnyboy said:

I found a 35 Summicron for a fair price...but it's the Canadian version #2539333 does anybody have experience with this version?

Summicron 35mm v III

Six elements lens ...better construction than the followed canadian version IV

nice rendering with more contrast than the version I (8 element) when used wide open

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35mm f2.8 Summaron. best classic 35mm lens.

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1 hour ago, lct said:

Summaron or Biogon?

Latest picture with the 35mm f2.8 Summaron.

One of a series taken in the rain, M2, Pan F in Moersch Tanol, 50th at f4, scanned from a darkroom print made this morning.

 

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8 hours ago, Pyrogallol said:

35mm f2.8 Summaron. best classic 35mm lens.

“Best” is of course always subjective. Although I do not really get along with the 35mm focal length, I must say the Summaron 2.8 does render nicely in both film and CCD (so my M9). I’ve not tried it on CMOS.

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On 9/17/2019 at 5:00 AM, a.noctilux said:

Summicron 35mm v III

Six elements lens ...better construction than the followed canadian version IV

nice rendering with more contrast than the version I (8 element) when used wide open

Is this lens really soft on the edges? I looked at this lens on M9 online report and it doesn’t look right.

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Buy the shittiest 35mm Leica/Leitz lens determined by the Group, and the best determined by the Group, then go upon your journey. Sometime therein you will find that aesthetic quality does not correspond to lens quality but instead life's fortuity that put you in the right place at the right time and at all at once lens choice will forever become irrelevant. It is really about how one lives, in the present with existential uncertainty or in a delusion persuaded by social pressure, marketing. 

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32 minutes ago, Ko.Fe. said:

Is this lens really soft on the edges? I looked at this lens on M9 online report and it doesn’t look right.

Summicron 35mm lenses in my use were "better" corrected from the former model so "III" is of course "better corrected" than "I", less lens elements so better contrast,

wide open and less curvature of field closed down ( which you wrote "soft on the edges" = yes untill closed down to f/8 to gain dof ).

That said, the "I" gives lovely rendering wide open for "soft subjects" ( portrait or 3D subjects ), less so with brick wall which the "III" is "better".

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8 hours ago, pico said:

Buy the shittiest 35mm Leica/Leitz lens determined by the Group, and the best determined by the Group, then go upon your journey. Sometime therein you will find that aesthetic quality does not correspond to lens quality but instead life's fortuity that put you in the right place at the right time and at all at once lens choice will forever become irrelevant. It is really about how one lives, in the present with existential uncertainty or in a delusion persuaded by social pressure, marketing. 

I love that analogy. Many years ago I took a picture, on Ektachrome, with my Father's Voigtlander Brilliant (the basic model). No meter, no focussing aid etc. That picture has been published in books. It is quite possible that if it had been taken with the best camera/lens combination it would have turned out no better. I was in the right place at the right time.

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ANY 35mm, literally, would be better than the pretty miserable Voigtlander 35mm Nokton.

it was the 1st lens i ever bought and was truly abysmal.  Poor looking bokeh, not really sharp anywhere, and just had no character.  No offense but i just cringe everytime i see photos taken with them.  Can instantly recognize their rendering and am traumatized by them! lol

Honestly....figure out your budget and get the best Leica 35mm you can with it.  If you can't afford it----get a 40mm Summicron C they are superb for the price.  

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Image quality wise,  CV lenses are similar to Leica.  I would not trade them for old Leica lenses thinking yo will have a better lens.  

Additionally you will spend many dollars to get the last 5% and then it will be current Leica.   Rent a candidate from Lens Rentals and see if it meets your expectations.    

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