Chaemono Posted August 25, 2019 Share #121 Posted August 25, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 19 Minuten schrieb Agent M10: We haven't seen the S3 with its new color array yet. It'd be surprising to see an SL2 with one before the S3 is actually rolled out. Good point, Agent M10. There’s still some time left until September 24, the rumored date for the SL2 announcement. But because of the competitive dynamics in FF, the “jus primae noctis” may not apply this time for the S line. vor 7 Minuten schrieb nicci78: My first question was to know if any of you got similar information from your reseller. Because the 36MP info was unique, never heard of before. I just want some confirmation from you This french reseller is kind of a legend in France. And be quite sure. But it is not my regular store. Let’s see the 24th of September Legends in the camera business are rarely wrong but we better not get our hopes up too much and wait patiently for September 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 25, 2019 Posted August 25, 2019 Hi Chaemono, Take a look here rumors SL2 with 36MP sensor only. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Jeff S Posted August 25, 2019 Share #122 Posted August 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, Agent M10 said: We haven't seen the S3 with its new color array yet. It'd be surprising to see an SL2 with one before the S3 is actually rolled out. I also used to think that it would be surprising to see an SL2 before the S3 in any event, but that was assuming the SL2 will have 47MP or similar. But the S line delays seem to indicate either unforeseen issues (since announced long ago), or that it just isn’t considered the system ‘flagship’ it once was, at least not as currently configured. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted August 25, 2019 Share #123 Posted August 25, 2019 What I find much worse than a 36MP sensor is that SL2 will most likely not have a folding display again. That's the main reason for me not to buy the SL2 and buy Panasonic or Fuji.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share #124 Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Don’t hold your breath. Leica will probably never made folding screen for their real Leica made in Germany. Of course fake Leica / real Lumix such as V-Lux will provide such screen Edited August 25, 2019 by nicci78 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted August 25, 2019 Share #125 Posted August 25, 2019 I am afraid about that as well. That's why I look for alternatives to SL2... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #126 Posted August 25, 2019 Since I found it hard to choose between S1 and S1r (and the same would be true when I had to choose between Z6 and Z7) for my purpose 36MP would be totally fine compromise between resolution and noise. So I hope the rumor is true. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #127 Posted August 25, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 33 minutes ago, tom0511 said: Since I found it hard to choose between S1 and S1r (and the same would be true when I had to choose between Z6 and Z7) for my purpose 36MP would be totally fine compromise between resolution and noise. So I hope the rumor is true. I found it a bit tough to decide on S1R or S1. Ultimately went with S1R... why?? 47mp Combine that with IBIS... huge winner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #128 Posted August 25, 2019 I know with such a small company this is too much to ask for, but in the spirit of the Panny S1r/S1 and Nikon Z 7/6, I'd like to have a choice of: SL2: 36mp SL2-BM [ = Big Mother; or GM if it needs to be in German]: 47mp in a slightly smaller body. Otherwise, I wonder if Leica has a lot of unused SL parts that they could drop a 36 mps sensor into for a limited run.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 25, 2019 Share #129 Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, verwackelt said: What I find much worse than a 36MP sensor is that SL2 will most likely not have a folding display again. That's the main reason for me not to buy the SL2 and buy Panasonic or Fuji.. In a community that embraces cameras without LCD you’ll be unlikely to find much resonance. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ru2far2c Posted August 25, 2019 Share #130 Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, bags27 said: I know with such a small company this is too much to ask for, but in the spirit of the Panny S1r/S1 and Nikon Z 7/6, I'd like to have a choice of: SL2: 36mp SL2-BM [ = Big Mother; or GM if it needs to be in German]: 47mp in a slightly smaller body. Otherwise, I wonder if Leica has a lot of unused SL parts that they could drop a 36 mps sensor into for a limited run.... Should of filed that request a few years ago.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted August 25, 2019 Share #131 Posted August 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, ru2far2c said: Should of filed that request a few years ago.... well, they still have 3 or 4 weeks to make the changes.....😀 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 26, 2019 Share #132 Posted August 26, 2019 If the SL2 really has a 36 MPx sensor, from Sony or otherwise, Thorsten Obergaard will have to redo the review of the S1R. He used the camera to see how well the SL lenses perform with the upcoming SL2 sensors. His conclusion was “right camera, wrong guy.” Well, now it turns out it’s more like “wrong camera, wrong guy.” 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted August 26, 2019 Share #133 Posted August 26, 2019 Stop speculating. Just look for Jono. And you will know more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 26, 2019 Share #134 Posted August 26, 2019 Jono probably has an NDA and will likely say something about the SL2 after September 24. Hence, until then we’ll speculate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollicoe Posted August 26, 2019 Share #135 Posted August 26, 2019 Maybe it’s the same sensor Zeiss is planning to use for their ZX1? Who knows if that will end up being released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 26, 2019 Share #136 Posted August 26, 2019 The Z1 sensor is in-house developed. I’d say, No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted August 26, 2019 Share #137 Posted August 26, 2019 vor 10 Stunden schrieb Donzo98: I found it a bit tough to decide on S1R or S1. Ultimately went with S1R... why?? 47mp Combine that with IBIS... huge winner. I also decided for the S1r and do like the camera. However sometimes I find a little less noise when bringing shadows up. I have 36MP with the Leica S body I use and so far never felt the need for MP. But needs are different. If it is "only" 36 MP I would however expect that the sensor (or camera) has other advantages over a 47 MP sensor (faster?, better noise behaviour? better DR?) I am looking forward to the announcement and the specs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted August 26, 2019 Share #138 Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 7:49 AM, nicci78 said: 47 MP from the Q2 is not state of the art. After using the Q2 after two months. I am not impressed at all. This sensor does not worth the trouble upgrading from Q. High ISO is worst that original Q. ISO 50 is buggy with blown out highlights caused by unreliable live histogram. Drives me crazy. Q2 is noticeably slower than Q. With a broken face detect AF. Q2 processor is too slow to handle 47MP. SL2 should have way faster CPU. Sounds like the experience I had moving from the RX1 to the RX1 version II These small integrated cameras are great for compactness and IQ but you can always forget about functionality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 26, 2019 Share #139 Posted August 26, 2019 vor 15 Stunden schrieb nicci78: My first question was to know if any of you got similar information from your reseller. Because the 36MP info was unique, never heard of before. I just want some confirmation from you This french reseller is kind of a legend in France. And be quite sure. But it is not my regular store. Ok, I can confirm. The SL2 definitely doesn’t have the Q2 sensor. That legend French reseller is one son of a gun. I put my money on Sony’s new 36 MPx sensor now, even though I can’t confirm this speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share #140 Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Nice if you also have some echo about it. I think that a 47MP SL2 with IBIS would have been a huge threat against the very late 65MP S3. 47MP sensor would have slowed down the SL2, making it a different beast than the fast SL. Maybe 36MP is the best of both world. Another bonus, SL2 will not be in direct competition with S1-S1R duo. It could also explained why Jono slack reviewed the 24MP S1 and not the 47MP S1R A 36MP sensor can be shared easily with future M11 Edited August 26, 2019 by nicci78 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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