T25UFO Posted August 23, 2019 Share #21 Posted August 23, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, caissa said: From B&H you can now get a bundle. SL plus Apo Summicron SL 50 for only 7995.- (in stock) I think that bundle is with the SL 50 Summilux, not the new APO Summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caissa Posted August 23, 2019 Share #22 Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, T25UFO said: I think that bundle is with the SL 50 Summilux, not the new APO Summicron. You are right, 6000 for the body only and 2000 for the lens ... That’s why I expected the cheaper lens ... my mistake ... Edited August 23, 2019 by caissa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 24, 2019 Share #23 Posted August 24, 2019 vor 6 Stunden schrieb caissa: You are right, 6000 for the body only and 2000 for the lens ... That’s why I expected the cheaper lens ... my mistake ... The 50 Summilux-SL isn’t discounted AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillavoider Posted August 24, 2019 Share #24 Posted August 24, 2019 23 hours ago, m9photo said: I got my 50 SL lux for $3k , so I'm not complaining Looks like I’m keeping mine then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted August 24, 2019 Share #25 Posted August 24, 2019 Looks like I’m keeping mine then Me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #26 Posted September 3, 2019 I caved... got a 50 APO on the way. Pics to follow 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 3, 2019 Share #27 Posted September 3, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) It sounds like homo emoticus won over homo economicus. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #28 Posted September 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, Chaemono said: It sounds like homo emoticus won over homo economicus. I’ll keep either the 50 SL or APO SL... not both It’s called rationalization Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 3, 2019 Share #29 Posted September 3, 2019 vor 10 Minuten schrieb Donzo98: I’ll keep either the 50 SL or APO SL... not both It’s called rationalization Sounds very rational. For a second there I thought, what happened to the brain surgeon in you. 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #30 Posted September 3, 2019 vor 1 Stunde schrieb Donzo98: I’ll keep either the 50 SL or APO SL... not both It’s called rationalization good luck to make the right (or to make a) decision once you have both in your hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #31 Posted September 3, 2019 Easy APO-Summicron-SL 50. Summilux is way too heavy and too huge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 3, 2019 Share #32 Posted September 3, 2019 Willing to bet against it. Based on everything I’ve seen from Don, he needs f/1.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #33 Posted September 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Chaemono said: Willing to bet against it. Based on everything I’ve seen from Don, he needs f/1.4. You know me so well I do love 1.4... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted September 3, 2019 Share #34 Posted September 3, 2019 Which puts you in a bind. Think of the APO 50 Summicron-SL as the APO 50 M which you’ve owned before just more perfect, and bigger with AF and weather sealing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #35 Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Chaemono said: Which puts you in a bind. Think of the APO 50 Summicron-SL as the APO 50 M which you’ve owned before just more perfect, and bigger with AF and weather sealing. Yup... exactly what I'm thinking it will be. What are you doing 50 wise?? What do you have now, and what are you keeping? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share #36 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) I'm a bit long on 50s - I won't be buying the 50 APO-Summicron-SL. The 50 Summilux-SL is close to perfect, and when I don't want perfect, I have other choices ... If the 50 Summicron-SL is as good as the 75 Summicron-SL it might be a good choice instead of the Summilux, but not worth the switch, in my view, unless size is an issue for you. Edited September 3, 2019 by IkarusJohn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted September 3, 2019 Share #37 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said: I'm a bit long on 50s - I won't be buying the 50 APO-Summicron-SL. The 50 Summilux-SL is close to perfect, and when I don't want perfect, I have other choices ... If the 50 Summicron-SL is as good as the 75 Summicron-SL it might be a good choice instead of the Summilux, but not worth the switch, in my view, unless size is an issue for you. Totally agree... the 50 SL is so GREAT. If the APO is close in terms of background blur... the size and faster AF will have me switching. I got lucky... someone had one, and decided to sell. Right place, right time. Edited September 3, 2019 by Donzo98 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 3, 2019 Share #38 Posted September 3, 2019 Lucky chap! I've come to the conclusion that much of the lens comparison is dancing on the head of a pin (see Chaemono's remarkable stamina for posting endless images which, to my eye, show very little unless you're really looking for it). In the SL system, I have the three zooms (16-280mm) and two primes (50 Summilux & 75 Summicron) - I see myself adding a 28 Summicron, perhaps ... the 16-35 zoom is very good, and there is probably no justification for a wide prime. I also have the TL2, with 11-23 zoom and 35 prime; Monochrom & M10-D with 21-28(2)-35-50(4)-75; and X1D II (to arrive shortly), 21/4 & 80/1.9. There's no particular logic to this, save that the SL fills a very specific need - it's weatherproof, the zooms are fantastic, and the primes the best Leica makes. Great for travel with a single zoom, tramping, birding and the sports I do. The M cameras are what they are - you get it, or you don't. The TL2 is great for cycling and when I just want something small and the X1D II ... well, I'm not sure yet. I regret selling my Hasselblad 500cx gear, and have always had a hankering to return to medium format. I'm not attracted to squeezing more pixels into the 35mm format - I'm happy with 24MP to be honest. For landscape, however, and some short tele work, the increase in size of the 50c sensor has benefits (apparently) over and above just pixel count - dynamic range, colour and other things I'm yet to explore. Apart from the 21/4 (17mm full frame equivalent) and the 80/1.9 (64mm full frame equivalent), I might add a short tele like the 135 & 1.7 converter (102/178mm full frame equivalents), I don't see myself adding to this system. There's a big gap in the middle if the XCD lenses which is well served by my M system. Time will tell ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giampo Posted September 4, 2019 Share #39 Posted September 4, 2019 I own both lenses, but after testing out the cron, I'm selling the lux. The foundamental reason is that the lux is too big, while I did not find it too heavy using it with the SL, it is just fine. Also because the cron is not a feather light lens anyway. Other reasons are that for my photography f2 is enough and if I want less DOF I will just use the 90 SL, also I find out that for sharpness at infinity on planar subjects (landscape) the cron is better than the lux. If your sbjects are mainly people, prefer f1.4 and are a bokeh addictid, you would prefer the lux I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoySmith Posted September 4, 2019 Share #40 Posted September 4, 2019 20 hours ago, Donzo98 said: I’ll keep either the 50 SL or APO SL... not both It’s called rationalization Keep them both, use one on the SL and the other on the SL2 ! 😊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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