W124 Posted May 1, 2019 Share #21 Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Just spreyed black collour on the logo and removed it from the letters. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 1, 2019 by W124 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296635-non-destructively-remove-the-red-dot/?do=findComment&comment=3732779'>More sharing options...
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pico Posted May 1, 2019 Share #22 Posted May 1, 2019 This black or red dot stuff has to pass away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted May 2, 2019 Share #23 Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) Reminds me of the Red and the Black by Stendhal. One of the required reading books in English class little did I know he was a Leica man! Wait a minute, he was talking about the French Revolution! Edited May 2, 2019 by derleicaman Asses text Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 2, 2019 Share #24 Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 7:44 PM, Jeff S said: DAG has been stocking black logos for most all Ms (as Leica Camera doesn’t provide them given trademark issues... at least not since the black M8.2 came stock with a block dot, apparently without Leica Camera’s authorization from Leica Microsystems, which owns the trademark/logo. The silver M8.2 came with a red dot.) Good to know I had the story basically correct... didn’t know it was a single person who objected. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 2, 2019 Share #25 Posted May 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Rick in CO said: Explains why, in one of the previous posts on this subject, someone told about sending their black dot camera to Leica for service and it was returned with a red dot! They will return it with the black dot still in place... if asked nicely. Worked for me. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2019 Share #26 Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, derleicaman said: When the M8.2 came out, someone at Leica Micro Systems objected. They control the Leica logo and license it to Leica Camera. Theirs is black, Camera's is red. So that was the end of the "official" black dot. True story. Do we know if this is really true rather than hearsay? Leica itself sells soft-release buttons in silver with black script as well as red with white script, and the Leica Microsystem's logo is red script for 'Leica' with 'Microsystems' underneath in black script on a white background. Usually a company's marketing department has logo & branding control Edited May 2, 2019 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 2, 2019 Share #27 Posted May 2, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 30 minutes ago, hemlock said: Do we know if this is really true rather than hearsay? Leica itself sells soft-release buttons in silver with black script as well as red with white script, and the Leica Microsystem's logo is red script for 'Leica' with 'Microsystems' underneath in black script on a white background. Usually a company's marketing department has logo & branding control Yes. It’s true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 4, 2019 Share #28 Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 5:00 AM, hemlock said: Do we know if this is really true rather than hearsay? Leica itself sells soft-release buttons in silver with black script as well as red with white script, and the Leica Microsystem's logo is red script for 'Leica' with 'Microsystems' underneath in black script on a white background. Usually a company's marketing department has logo & branding control Yes Leica Microsystems has control. Other Leica brand companies lease the name and logo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted May 4, 2019 Share #29 Posted May 4, 2019 you can remove the top-plate and push it out instead, super easy only 2 screws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted May 4, 2019 Share #30 Posted May 4, 2019 My M10-P doesn't have a dot, just the slotted screw head. Does anyone know what the correct angle is for the slot? Mine isn't aligned with anything else on the camera and seems unkempt. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! </sarcasm> 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! </sarcasm> ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296635-non-destructively-remove-the-red-dot/?do=findComment&comment=3734571'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 4, 2019 Share #31 Posted May 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, andyturk said: My M10-P doesn't have a dot, just the slotted screw head. Does anyone know what the correct angle is for the slot? Mine isn't aligned with anything else on the camera and seems unkempt. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! </sarcasm> 34 degrees to the right. Leica’s specification 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturk Posted May 4, 2019 Share #32 Posted May 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, earleygallery said: 34 degrees to the right. Leica’s specification Mine is definitely off then. Do you know if it's lefty-loosey righty-tighty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted May 4, 2019 Share #33 Posted May 4, 2019 The slot in the front screw on my M10-P is level with the top and bottom plates, 90 to 270 degrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted May 4, 2019 Share #34 Posted May 4, 2019 Make an image search with google, the result shows that any position of the slot is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
happymac Posted May 4, 2019 Share #35 Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) Am 1.5.2019 um 21:38 schrieb W124: Just spreyed black collour on the logo and removed it from the letters. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Pretty cool – you did a great job. How did you remove the color from the letters? Edited May 4, 2019 by happymac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W124 Posted May 4, 2019 Share #36 Posted May 4, 2019 vor 10 Minuten schrieb happymac: Pretty cool – you did a great job. How did you remove the color from the letters? Just some fine sand paper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 5, 2019 Share #37 Posted May 5, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 7:23 PM, derleicaman said: The red dot thing goes back to the M4-2, M4-P and then the M6 days. Tom Abrahamsson would always tape over the red dot, and following Tom's lead, I would too. We felt it just stood out like a sore thumb and called too much attention to the camera. Back in those days, we not only had the red dot on the front of the camera, but also the Leica name and model numbers in white. Tom would tape his over, I filled in my lettering with dark grey paint. When I was speccing out the Black Paint LHSA camera, I asked for a black Leica dot for the front of the camera, thinking this was an elegant solution and to make things blend with the black paint finish. Also, I had specified no Leica or model number on the front of the camera, but the Leica script back on the top plate where it belonged with the classic Leica script. I had the prototype with me at a PMA show and was discussing it with the CEO of Leica at the time. He pointed to the black dot and said' "Bill there is something wrong here". I responded, no, I had asked to have the black dot instead of the red one. He said OK, and that's the way the limited run was made, with the black dot. When the M8.2 came out, someone at Leica Micro Systems objected. They control the Leica logo and license it to Leica Camera. Theirs is black, Camera's is red. So that was the end of the "official" black dot. True story. Strangely, Leica Microsystems doesn't use the dot at all. They use the Leica lettering logo - in red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 14, 2020 Share #38 Posted February 14, 2020 My new M10 will be arriving in three or four hours. I know it's coming with a red dot; would rather it be black, like my M8.2 camera. I've got no intention of doing any of the above - I figure a small piece of black plastic electrical tape should be fine. Years ago, I used to tape over the "Nikon" name on those cameras. To me, they are all supposed to be "tools", no need to attract attention to them. Even with my old Fuji X100, people would ask if I was using my grandfather's camera. That's fine with me. Heck, I'd be happy with the adjustment slot showing, and no dot at all. That's why I bought a black body, twice now. The shiny body looks more attractive, while the black body doesn't look, period. With the old Leica lenses, the lens is so small by comparison with the new lenses - and lighter as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted February 14, 2020 Share #39 Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) On 5/1/2019 at 8:41 PM, Rick in CO said: Thanks for the interesting story! I wondered where the black dots came from. Explains why, in one of the previous posts on this subject, someone told about sending their black dot camera to Leica for service and it was returned with a red dot! I sent my M9 with black dot to Leica in Germany for a sensor replacement in 2015. Much to my annoyance it came back with a red dot. I had a couple of spare black dots and changed it again. It's now due for a 2nd sensor replacement, I'll probably send it to Germany with the red dot and change it back to black when it's returned to me. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 14, 2020 by michali Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/296635-non-destructively-remove-the-red-dot/?do=findComment&comment=3912799'>More sharing options...
idusidusi Posted March 25, 2022 Share #40 Posted March 25, 2022 On 4/28/2019 at 12:28 AM, fotografr said: When did the once highly regarded Leica red dot fall out of fashion? I seem to have missed it. If the idea is to disguise the camera, I'm pretty certain anyone who recognizes the red dot will know a Leica with or without one. Maybe you are right with that. I still would prefer a black one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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