scott kirkpatrick Posted December 29, 2018 Share #41 Posted December 29, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) The currently popular products seem to plug into the 12 volt socket and present two USB A-sockets, with a capacity of 4 to 4.8 amps in two sockets, which I guess is no more than 2-2.4 amps to each one. But these appear to present 5V outputs, not 12 V at the USB A sockets. Are any of these QC or similar higher output when they succeed in handshaking with the camera battery charger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scott kirkpatrick Posted December 29, 2018 Share #42 Posted December 29, 2018 On 12/28/2018 at 4:57 PM, pico said: Yes, it sure is a silly set-up. I must get the 12V DC plugs. Maybe silly, but it is exactly what we used to do to drive a portable DVD player to keep kids in the back seat entertained on long (over 30 mins) drives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 29, 2018 Share #43 Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, scott kirkpatrick said: Maybe silly, but it is exactly what we used to do to drive a portable DVD player to keep kids in the back seat entertained on long (over 30 mins) drives. To compensate for my silly implementation, I would like credit for defeating two 12V accessory plugs that turned off when the ignition was turned off. They are live all the time now. The fix was so simple, no splicing, entirely reversible. But it's a Toyota thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 30, 2018 Share #44 Posted December 30, 2018 Careful Pico. Using them for very long without the engine running will suck the Toyota battery dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 30, 2018 Share #45 Posted December 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, jdlaing said: Careful Pico. Using them for very long without the engine running will suck the Toyota battery dead. Absolutely not true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted December 30, 2018 Share #46 Posted December 30, 2018 A word of warning about charging a Li-Ion battery - any Li-Ion battery - quickly: while sometimes it can be convenient, it will inevitably reduce the life of the battery. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted December 30, 2018 Share #47 Posted December 30, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 10/21/2018 at 3:56 PM, JusBL@zE said: Just got the charger and working great for me. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I got mine a few weeks ago and have been using is since. So far, so good! I really like the information presented on the unit's LCD display. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireLight Posted January 2, 2019 Share #48 Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 3:20 AM, budjames said: I got mine a few weeks ago and have been using is since. So far, so good! I really like the information presented on the unit's LCD display. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. Hi Bud, I've been dealing with Nitecore customer service to try and isolate the issue; to see if myself and others have a faulty charger, or if we were lucky enough to just find the flaws in the design. I am curious - have you checked the battery's percentage in the camera after charging on the Nitecore? Also, do you pull them off the charger as soon as you see they are full, or have you left them overnight? It seems like the charger is able to discharge if the batteries are left in for any kind of extended period. My unit and display all seem to be functioning fine, until I left them in overnight and found they only were reporting 90% in camera (or completely dead, on two occasions). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 2, 2019 Share #49 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, FireLight said: Hi Bud, I've been dealing with Nitecore customer service to try and isolate the issue; to see if myself and others have a faulty charger, or if we were lucky enough to just find the flaws in the design. I am curious - have you checked the battery's percentage in the camera after charging on the Nitecore? Also, do you pull them off the charger as soon as you see they are full, or have you left them overnight? It seems like the charger is able to discharge if the batteries are left in for any kind of extended period. My unit and display all seem to be functioning fine, until I left them in overnight and found they only were reporting 90% in camera (or completely dead, on two occasions). NiteCore claims (in promotional material) that you can just leave the batteries in the charger until you need them, but I have had the same experience you describe. I left batteries in the charger overnight and in the morning found them saying "8.4 volts FULL" but in fact showing 7.8 or 7.9 volts. The charger actually takes them to 8.1 volts if you remove them immediately. Another trick applies to charging up a battery that has been run down to half or so. Then when it stops, remove it and reinsert it to charge again until it stops (5-10 minutes). This usually gets it to 95 or 100%. If you just charge it in one pass, 80 to 85% is more typical. The M10 charger uses a more complicated protocol than the earlier models, I think. Haven't checked this carefully, though. I suspect Leica with its 5% accuracy battery gauge, is unusual. Most cameras just show battery state with a 4-bar or 5-bar scale. And Li-ion/polymer batteries have complex internal dynamics. The open circuit voltage doesn't tell you everything that is going on. Edited January 2, 2019 by scott kirkpatrick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budjames Posted January 2, 2019 Share #50 Posted January 2, 2019 7 hours ago, FireLight said: Hi Bud, I've been dealing with Nitecore customer service to try and isolate the issue; to see if myself and others have a faulty charger, or if we were lucky enough to just find the flaws in the design. I am curious - have you checked the battery's percentage in the camera after charging on the Nitecore? Also, do you pull them off the charger as soon as you see they are full, or have you left them overnight? It seems like the charger is able to discharge if the batteries are left in for any kind of extended period. My unit and display all seem to be functioning fine, until I left them in overnight and found they only were reporting 90% in camera (or completely dead, on two occasions). I have not left batteries charging overnight as I never do, even with the Leica chargers. I have taken batteries fully charged in the Nitecore and put them into the Leica charger. The Leica charger indicated that the batteries were fully charged. Regards, Bud James Please check out my fine art and travel photography at www.budjames.photography or on Instagram at www.instagram.com/budjamesphoto. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHNL Posted July 15, 2019 Share #51 Posted July 15, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 10:13 PM, scott kirkpatrick said: NiteCore claims (in promotional material) that you can just leave the batteries in the charger until you need them, but I have had the same experience you describe. I left batteries in the charger overnight and in the morning found them saying "8.4 volts FULL" but in fact showing 7.8 or 7.9 volts. The charger actually takes them to 8.1 volts if you remove them immediately. Another trick applies to charging up a battery that has been run down to half or so. Then when it stops, remove it and reinsert it to charge again until it stops (5-10 minutes). This usually gets it to 95 or 100%. If you just charge it in one pass, 80 to 85% is more typical. The M10 charger uses a more complicated protocol than the earlier models, I think. Haven't checked this carefully, though. I suspect Leica with its 5% accuracy battery gauge, is unusual. Most cameras just show battery state with a 4-bar or 5-bar scale. And Li-ion/polymer batteries have complex internal dynamics. The open circuit voltage doesn't tell you everything that is going on. I have the same issue with mine. I can’t just put two battery and leave them overnight. Both will deplete next morning. What a garbage product. I wonder if anyone have work around for the problem？ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaR10 Posted July 15, 2019 Share #52 Posted July 15, 2019 ZHNL, I found a work around for my two NiteCore chargers that failed. I returned them and went back to using Leica chargers with no issues. r/ Mark 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 18, 2019 Share #53 Posted July 18, 2019 I was about to buy a Nitecore charger when I saw them on the Leica Store website, but a check of Amazon reviews indicated a poorly made and unreliable product. What a shame because it certainly is a good idea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted July 18, 2019 Share #54 Posted July 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, Sam said: I was about to buy a Nitecore charger when I saw them on the Leica Store website, but a check of Amazon reviews indicated a poorly made and unreliable product. What a shame because it certainly is a good idea. I have several for different batteries and all work very well. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcracer Posted July 22, 2019 Share #55 Posted July 22, 2019 There was a bug in the software used on the Gen 1 Nitecore charger for the M10. If you left the batteries in overnight, they would fully charge and then discharge. The display however would show fully charged. I sent mine back and they replaced it with Gen 2 which works correctly now. They seem to have put in a discharge limit at 95% capacity so if you take the battery out as soon as it hits full charge, the camera will show 100%; if you take it out the next day, the camera will show 95%. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted July 22, 2019 Share #56 Posted July 22, 2019 How can I see, if I have a Gen 1 or 2 one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcracer Posted July 22, 2019 Share #57 Posted July 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, elmars said: How can I see, if I have a Gen 1 or 2 one? I didn’t see any visual or labelling difference. The best way to know is to charge a battery and leave it in overnight. If the battery shows less than 95% charge in your camera after leaving it in overnight, you have Gen 1 and should contact Nitecore for a replacement. Nitecore was excellent to deal with; they swapped out the faulty charger within 24 hrs and had their agent in Hong Kong meet me in person to do the swap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted July 22, 2019 Share #58 Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) On 7/18/2019 at 4:29 PM, Sam said: I was about to buy a Nitecore charger when I saw them on the Leica Store website, but a check of Amazon reviews indicated a poorly made and unreliable product. What a shame because it certainly is a good idea The problem seems isolated to the first version of the ULM10 PRO charger for the M10 camera, which fcracer suggests have now been fixed in the second version. I found the Nitecore ULM9 charger for my M9 Monochrom batteries to be excellent. Edited July 22, 2019 by Nick_S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 22, 2019 Share #59 Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Nick_S said: The problem seems isolated to the first version of the ULM10 PRO charger for the M10 camera, which fcracer suggests have now been fixed in the second version. I found the Nitecore ULM9 charger for my M9 Monochrom batteries to be excellent. That's good to hear. I found a reasonably priced used M10 charger for my second one, so now I'm good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS Koo Posted February 2, 2020 Share #60 Posted February 2, 2020 Hello, Is it worth buying Nitecore dual charger in 2020? it seems charging issue has been figured out. But I'm not still confident yet to buy it. is there anyone who can answer it for me? I'll really appreciate it for any small comment. Thanks, Koo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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