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Mode Lock should not be ON by default, because if it is, and you accidentally tap the LV button, then the shutter is locked. I thought I'd got an M240 lock up issue. A total reset was the only solution (till I realised what the problem was). So Mode Lock should be OFF by default.

 

In the same way as you can switch off video on the M, you should be able to disable video functions on the SL and reassign the buttons: the Video button and the LV preview button.

 

Make the LV display fully customisable, not just a choice between a number of screens. E.g. to see the histogram AND the horizon, and decide which camera info should be displayed.

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I don't think this is a firmware bug or issue. 

 

When the SL is set to APS-C sensor format, JPEGs are captured to the cropped format size, as they should be.

 

DNG files, however, are always captured full format; they have the crop format sizing specified in the EXIF data such that Lightroom and other image editors display the APS-C format properly. When you elicit cropping mode in Lightroom, this nets you the ability to crop anywhere in the full FF format capture space. The SL displays APS-C format raw files without a companion JPEG as the full format with the APS-C crop marked out. 

 

This is identical to what my Olympus E-M1, E-PL7, and other recent series cameras with sensor format cropping do. It's considered a bonus as you have more adjustment latitude if you framed a little too tightly. Older cameras would capture the full format in raw but hard-mark the crop format in EXIF such that you had to edit the EXIF data to change the sensor format crop area. I don't know of any camera that didn't capture the full raw format when the sensor format was set to some crop value. 

 

Hi Ramarren,

 

today I tried a test with a Nikon D800: raw (NEF) is about 77 MB, but with a DX lense attached it is only 33 MB!

So the Nikons used a smaller raw format for APS-C lenses.

 

Can anybody looks for the file size of the SL with a T lense? Thank you

 

 

thomas

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today I tried a test with a Nikon D800: raw (NEF) is about 77 MB, but with a DX lense attached it is only 33 MB!

So the Nikons used a smaller raw format for APS-C lenses.

 

Interesting. I don't have any DX lenses so I never saw that on my D750.

Similarly, I don't have any T lenses so haven't seen what file sizes the SL produces with T lenses. All my SL DNG files are 43.1 Mbyte in size.

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Interesting. I don't have any DX lenses so I never saw that on my D750.

Similarly, I don't have any T lenses so haven't seen what file sizes the SL produces with T lenses. All my SL DNG files are 43.1 Mbyte in size.

 

May I suggest that someone try that during their next visit to the neighborhood Leica store?  I wouldn't buy a T lens just to investigate, but surely you can borrow one.

 

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Hi Ramarren,

 

today I tried a test with a Nikon D800: raw (NEF) is about 77 MB, but with a DX lense attached it is only 33 MB!

So the Nikons used a smaller raw format for APS-C lenses.

 

Can anybody looks for the file size of the SL with a T lense? Thank you

 

 

Thomas

 

When you choose APSC mode with a FF lens on the camera it knows this and records the full frame, allowing adjustment later.

 

When you choose APSC mode by using and APSC lens the sensor physically cannot capture the full sensor area. The camera knows this and records a cropped file which cannot be adjusted outside that area later.

 

Gordon

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Interesting. I don't have any DX lenses so I never saw that on my D750.

Similarly, I don't have any T lenses so haven't seen what file sizes the SL produces with T lenses. All my SL DNG files are 43.1 Mbyte in size.

 

yesterday I could try a T lense on a SL: 

DNG with T lense is about 18 MB (only)!

 

So these files are really cropped.

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The Technical Data for the SL state that the sensor size for APS-C images is 10 MP. I presume it's closer to 10.3 MP, but that's a small difference.

 

of corse, something about 10,3 MP; so DNG with 14 bit delivers raw files about 10,3 *14 / 8 = 18 MB.

So the SL delivers 10 MP with T lenses; with all others even in APS-C setting it delivers full 24 MP.

 

No problem, but good to know...

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of corse, something about 10,3 MP; so DNG with 14 bit delivers raw files about 10,3 *14 / 8 = 18 MB.

So the SL delivers 10 MP with T lenses; with all others even in APS-C setting it delivers full 24 MP.

 

No problem, but good to know...

 

 

In what way is this a firmware improvement suggestion?

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When you choose APSC mode with a FF lens on the camera it knows this and records the full frame, allowing adjustment later.

 

When you choose APSC mode by using and APSC lens the sensor physically cannot capture the full sensor area. The camera knows this and records a cropped file which cannot be adjusted outside that area later.

 

Gordon

 

In what way is this a firmware improvement suggestion?

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of corse, something about 10,3 MP; so DNG with 14 bit delivers raw files about 10,3 *14 / 8 = 18 MB.

So the SL delivers 10 MP with T lenses; with all others even in APS-C setting it delivers full 24 MP.

 

No problem, but good to know...

Ok, so the big question is whether one should purchase the T mid tele for use with the SL versus the SL zoom.  We all know the limitations of the T: no IBIS, no weather sealing, reduced MP's but the real advantage is the decreased weight.  

 

Thoughts?

 

Ed

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Ok, so the big question is whether one should purchase the T mid tele for use with the SL versus the SL zoom.  We all know the limitations of the T: no IBIS, no weather sealing, reduced MP's but the real advantage is the decreased weight.  

 

Thoughts?

 

Ed

 

Well, it doesn't make much sense to me. If I had a T and a couple of lenses already, it's a nice convenience and doesn't cost too much in way of megapixels, so it's reasonable. But I bought the SL for its large sensor and capabilities with FF lens—there's little real reason for me to buy a lens the cuts resolution and format size in half. I'll just "suffer" with the big zoom when it seems appropriate, and otherwise enjoy my prime R lenses.

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It appears that the manual focus magnification controls can now be mapped to the joystick in the forthcoming 1.2 firmware, which is really great news. It also means that Leica is listening.

 

My number one request would be to change the mandatory long exposure noise reduction function and make it a user selectable menu item. The SL cannot be regarded as a truly professional camera with this arbitrary limitation in place. All of my other "professional" cameras (almost any non-Leica camera actually) allow LENR to be disabled.

 

I am a cinematographer who specializes in timelapse footage. In my line of work, this seemingly minor point is a major problem that doubles the time needed to complete any exposure over .5 seconds. Many of my long exposures (2-10 seconds) are done at base ISO...my hunch is that noise would be a non-issue with these types of exposures if LENR were disabled. If the image quality takes a hit, then so be it - I can do effective dark frame subtraction by shooting one black frame at the end of the sequence rather than doubling the time of every exposure.

 

Please Leica, let the user decide if long exposure noise reduction is necessary and give us a menu selection to disable it if desired. If this change is made, I will order another body immediately.

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Dear thighslapper,

 

I have found that the folder number on the SL increments every time I format the SD card in the camera.

 

So if the last image is L1000387, after formatting the next image is numbered L1010388.

 

Best regards

 

Trond

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Ok, so the big question is whether one should purchase the T mid tele for use with the SL versus the SL zoom.  We all know the limitations of the T: no IBIS, no weather sealing, reduced MP's but the real advantage is the decreased weight.  

 

Thoughts?

 

Ed

 

An M mid tele makes more sense in my opinion. 

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