Duane Pandorf Posted August 30, 2015 Share #601 Posted August 30, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The M (Typ 240) started shipping in 2013 so if Leica sticks to a 3 year product cycle its successor should ship in 2016. And who says it won’t? If Leica announces a new M in September I think they will have it ready to ship same time. I believe their manufacturing has caught up with the announcements. However, I'm not saying that the shelves will be littered with plenty of supply but those first on the lists will be able to have theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IkarusJohn Posted August 30, 2015 Share #602 Posted August 30, 2015 I'd be amazed if Leica doesn't release an upgrade to the M(240) this September/October. They have consistently released a new digital M every three years, without fail. There is a lot they can do for the existing model, and besides the whole M camera line needs a bit of rationalisation. The new system camera is something else entirely ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 31, 2015 Share #603 Posted August 31, 2015 Yes but the new M could be announced and shipped in 2016 eventually. Just a guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted August 31, 2015 Share #604 Posted August 31, 2015 Could it be the new M is a stripped version of the 240, maybe without video, something like the ME compared to the original M? Bringing down the cost, making it more affordable and later launch the real new M? robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 31, 2015 Share #605 Posted August 31, 2015 Could it be the new M is a stripped version of the 240, maybe without video, something like the ME compared to the original M? Bringing down the cost, making it more affordable and later launch the real new M? robert The video does not increase the cost in any way. A different thing is a camera like the M60. It is a question of style, not cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkonkkrete Posted August 31, 2015 Share #606 Posted August 31, 2015 I'd be surprised if video does not increase cost in any way. That makes no sense. You need R&D to put the codecs and other video related firmware paraphernalia in there, not to mention the video button. Yes, the button costs money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 31, 2015 Share #607 Posted August 31, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would not hold my breath. Removing video would have a cost for "low cost" Ms so to speak which will be based on the current M240 i suspect. As for regular Ms, the same move would have a cost in terms of sales IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 31, 2015 Share #608 Posted August 31, 2015 I'd be surprised if video does not increase cost in any way. That makes no sense. You need R&D to put the codecs and other video related firmware paraphernalia in there, not to mention the video button. Yes, the button costs money. If Leica was in the business of producing ultra-high-turnover low price objects then the cost of a button may influence the retail price. But it isn't, so it doesn't. In fact Leica is as close to the opposite of that way of doing business as you can get, certainly in the photographic world, and their pricing is a direct reflection of the value to the customer, a financial reflection of desire, and the cost of production is only one of the factors that determines price, and by no means the most important one. In other words, cutting out video in Leica world will not make for a cheaper M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkonkkrete Posted August 31, 2015 Share #609 Posted August 31, 2015 I agree. It wouldn't affect the price for the consumer. And I'll put up with the bloat if the core functions of the camera are good. But video doesn't improve the M, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardM Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share #610 Posted August 31, 2015 as the topic starter i have to confirm - Announcment of new M this Fall / Autumn 2015. This is the reason why i am hesistating with purchase of Q... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted August 31, 2015 Share #611 Posted August 31, 2015 as the topic starter i have to confirm - Announcment of new M this Fall / Autumn 2015. This is the reason why i am hesistating with purchase of Q... I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago ......... no new M this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted August 31, 2015 Share #612 Posted August 31, 2015 I'm not technically expert, thanks for all reply. I imagine that removing video would also not give any benefit regard size... robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted August 31, 2015 Share #613 Posted August 31, 2015 I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago ......... no new M this year. Well I hope that's correct as I'd like some GAS relief this year, or at least from a new M body (or type 246 if I don't like it). Though an interchangeable lens Q or equivalent may well interest me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sls Posted August 31, 2015 Share #614 Posted August 31, 2015 It's funny but I had exactly the same experience. Just came back from one week in the Czech Republic and I was shocked at the number of Canon and Nikon DSLRs in the hands of tourists. Very few mirrorless and mostly with Asian tourists, but the vast majority was DSLRS which makes me wonder about the imminent death of this technology at the hands of mirrorless. One guy even brought a 1Dx with a 50/1.4 to a classical concert but didn't try to take any photos. I only saw an M3 with one Chinese tourist but never anyone with a digital M, apart from me. I just been in Barcelona, Bangkok, Cambodia, Bali over the last 4 weeks. Agree that lots of Canikon DSLRs in Barcelona (i.e. Europe), some Fuji, but the striking thing about the Chinese and Japanese who comprise the majority of the tourists in SE Asia is that probably 95% use phones. Otherwise, mostly cheaper Canikon DSLR with package midrange zoom lenses. The only other Leica seen was an M9/28mm Summilux on a classy looking gent in the Mercer Hotel in Barcelona (a classy joint). Had a long transit in Bangkok on the way back. The camera store in the airport had very few Canon/Nikon DSLR. Mainly compacts from a wide range of manufacturers, otherwise Sony A7 and Olympus OM-D were featured premium products. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted August 31, 2015 Share #615 Posted August 31, 2015 Well I hope that's correct as I'd like some GAS relief this year, or at least from a new M body (or type 246 if I don't like it). Though an interchangeable lens Q or equivalent may well interest me. I could really do with some GAS relief too, having acquired both a M246 and a Noctilux earlier this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted August 31, 2015 Share #616 Posted August 31, 2015 Maybe yes, maybe no, but how does that make this thread relevant annually....and obviously? Jeff This is like Schrödinger's Leica! Is a new M dead or alive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loren Posted August 31, 2015 Share #617 Posted August 31, 2015 I'd be amazed if Leica doesn't release an upgrade to the M(240) this September/October. They have consistently released a new digital M every three years, without fail. There is a lot they can do for the existing model, and besides the whole M camera line needs a bit of rationalisation. The new system camera is something else entirely ... A lot depends on what they have available for engineering resources. Leica just got done introducing a new product called the Q. Any new product sucks a lot more resources than a simple product update. I wouldn't know for sure, but it is possible the the Q might have displaced the M as far as engineering time goes, pushing back a new revision. Also, consider that if the next M revision would be as radical as some are predicting it will require even more effort to produce. I don't think the 3-year rule is cast in stone and even if it was there is no reason that it might be broken once in a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sls Posted August 31, 2015 Share #618 Posted August 31, 2015 I was looking for some sales figures and came across this blog. https://photographylife.com/how-mirrorless-cameras-could-save-the-photo-industry I moved to Leica because they are simple - the camera does not get in the way of taking a good picture. I ended up using Canon on the "P" setting most of the time, taking pictures probably worse than I did 20 years earlier with 35mm, and lots out of focus. I find with my MM I use most of the functionality most of the time - for any piece of technology that is surely an indication of good design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
}{B Posted August 31, 2015 Share #619 Posted August 31, 2015 This is like Schrödinger's Leica! Is a new M dead or alive? Both. Until the speculation ends and we open the box and either find the new M alive and well or that the box is empty. I'm hoping for a new M along the lines of the rumour that it will be a slimmed down version with some form of optical/electronic rangefinder. If that pans out then I'll be tempted to dip my toes into the world of Leica digital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted August 31, 2015 Share #620 Posted August 31, 2015 Could it be the new M is a stripped version of the 240, maybe without video, something like the ME compared to the original M? Short answer: No. Slightly longer answer: The next M-E will be announced when the new M is. As the next M-E will probably be a variant of the M (Typ 240) with virtually all the features offered by the latter, introducing it any earlier wouldn’t make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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