Peter Kilmister Posted May 26, 2015 Share #181 Posted May 26, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) We'll all have to be patient and wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xspider Posted May 26, 2015 Share #182 Posted May 26, 2015 I think the most interesting point with the new M is that Leica has to face a totally new competitive Landscape (they are no longer the only company selling a Full Frame Mirrorless camera.)and everbody expects big steps forward, while Leica most likely runs out of time and R&D Resources as they have to fix the CCD Sensor Problem (at the moment I assume they calculate a loss with every M-E they sell). The monochrome has been fixed, done. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a new M-E soon (probably an M 240 Sensor with EVF only?) That leaves the new M open, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see the launch later than expected. On the other hand it is obviously the end of the M 240 Lifecycle. So not the best starting point, and I hope we don't get a compromise (I would at least prefer to wait a few months more). When it comes to innovations I think one has to consider Leicas core competence, glass and the RF. So I doubt we get an AF System. Sensor is outsourced and I doubt that CMOSIS can outperform Sony on the MP race. Improvements like GPS, Wifi, Sensor Cleaning, IBIS are all nice, but not really a game changer. So I would see the biggest opportunity in complementing the RF with an EVF like Fuji did. Probably with a moveable EVF based Rangefinder-Patch? A lot of us would welcome that and it would compensate the M's problem with wide and long lenses and would hence create a market potential for new lenses longer than 135mm. And that is an area where Leica can outperform all others.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 26, 2015 Share #183 Posted May 26, 2015 Anyway, a new product to be announced soon... (Rumor): http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/suprise-product-to-be-announced-by-leica-in-two-weeks-from-now?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter This makes me re-think that, one day or another, Leica ought to give a "kick/boost" to the Sinar brand they have acquired time ago... (till now, they have only attached Leica S to the Sinar rail system) (unless... the reliable source is from the Sport Optic dept, and they are announcing a new binocular... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xspider Posted May 27, 2015 Share #184 Posted May 27, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if this is a new M-E... They need to stop selling cameras which create an unknown liability for them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 27, 2015 Share #185 Posted May 27, 2015 The illustration shows a film camera dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 27, 2015 Share #186 Posted May 27, 2015 The illustration shows a film camera dunk Nothing gets by you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 27, 2015 Share #187 Posted May 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The illustration shows a film camera dunk Saw that too, but it better be digital if Leica wants a sales boost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markforce Posted May 27, 2015 Share #188 Posted May 27, 2015 Hold the date on June 12 for 'live' presentations of the new-new in your boutique of choice. Official launch/announcement on 6/10, apparently. Quote from someone in the know today: it is (going to be) a killer machine, and nothing of the Panasonic-related new-product-sorts. Wouldn't say anything more. Me wondering about a potential new/upgraded color M asked: will the killer machine take M lenses? Answer: Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted May 27, 2015 Share #189 Posted May 27, 2015 will the killer machine take M lenses? Answer: Nope. In that case all it kills is my potential interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted May 27, 2015 Share #190 Posted May 27, 2015 Hold the date on June 12 for 'live' presentations of the new-new in your boutique of choice. Official launch/announcement on 6/10, apparently. Quote from someone in the know today: it is (going to be) a killer machine, and nothing of the Panasonic-related new-product-sorts. Wouldn't say anything more. Me wondering about a potential new/upgraded color M asked: will the killer machine take M lenses? Answer: Nope. Usual Luddites and Naysayers probably already drafting their responses dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 27, 2015 Share #191 Posted May 27, 2015 In order to be competitive and to reach a market share closer to 1% than now, they have to reach additional customers, not the same customers over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 27, 2015 Share #192 Posted May 27, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if this is a new M-E... It is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted May 28, 2015 Share #193 Posted May 28, 2015 In order to be competitive and to reach a market share closer to 1% than now, they have to reach additional customers, not the same customers over again. The only way to do this is image quality and lower cost. A M Mount version of the Leica T perhaps? What is required is a lower cost non-RF version of the M with an EVF. The precision required by the RF pushes up the price a lot. Yet an RF model is still required, customers still want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 28, 2015 Share #194 Posted May 28, 2015 What is required is a lower cost non-RF version of the M with an EVF. I don’t think so. Yet an RF model is still required, customers still want it. Yep. Not everything Leica does is related to the M, btw.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 28, 2015 Share #195 Posted May 28, 2015 So is it ... a development of the T? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xspider Posted May 28, 2015 Share #196 Posted May 28, 2015 A Monochrome T? Well I guess we have to wait and see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 28, 2015 Share #197 Posted May 28, 2015 A Monochrome T? Well I guess we have to wait and see... Now that's a very strange idea ... I was trying to lure Michael into a game of 20 questions (without success, it has to be said). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #198 Posted May 28, 2015 The only way to do this is image quality and lower cost. A M Mount version of the Leica T perhaps? What is required is a lower cost non-RF version of the M with an EVF. The precision required by the RF pushes up the price a lot. Yet an RF model is still required, customers still want it. An M-mount version of the T makes no sense. There is an adapter already and it would be function-limited compared to the real T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted May 28, 2015 Share #199 Posted May 28, 2015 I am surprised by the "silence" of Leicarumors... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 28, 2015 Share #200 Posted May 28, 2015 A fixed lens camera would be more likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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