sirimiri Posted March 26, 2014 Share #221 Posted March 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I also await with keen anticipation a firmware fix for the buggy M9. I second this. Please fix the "discreet" mode. It's been awhile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Hi sirimiri, Take a look here Auto iso coming.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted March 26, 2014 Share #222 Posted March 26, 2014 ...So you don't have a use for auto ISO?... The M240 has auto iso already. It is not to everyone's liking as usual but it is perfect for some people like me and i don't find surprising that Leica are not in a hurry to fix what is not broken if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenicolas Posted March 26, 2014 Share #223 Posted March 26, 2014 I turn the camera on. I press and hold the ISO button on the back. I turn the thumbwheel The ISO goes up, or down. Why is this not what you are looking for? It is exactly what I meant! Tanks for pointing out it is already possible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krooj Posted March 26, 2014 Share #224 Posted March 26, 2014 Is there any news out of Leica on this auto-ISO fix? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappa Posted March 26, 2014 Share #225 Posted March 26, 2014 Incredible. It's late March and no sign of the firmware!!!!! Yo, Leica, wake up. Yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted March 26, 2014 Share #226 Posted March 26, 2014 The M240 has auto iso already. It is not to everyone's liking as usual but it is perfect for some people like me and i don't find surprising that Leica are not in a hurry to fix what is not broken if you ask me. Sorry but Leica told us that the option to have the auto iso (as in M9 and M8) implemented AS AN OPTION would be released as a firmware update at some point so lets not get into the old arguments;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 26, 2014 Share #227 Posted March 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry but Leica told us that the option to have the auto iso (as in M9 and M8) implemented AS AN OPTION would be released as a firmware update at some point so lets not get into the old arguments;) I know, i know, i was just commenting your "at some point" in advance . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted March 26, 2014 Share #228 Posted March 26, 2014 To recap. This is a Leica, part of the M system…..and someone wants Auto ISO!Next a P mode? Then Auto focus? You control the shutter speed. You control the ISO - always. You control the aperture. You control the focussing. If you don't control the ISO, you are fundamentally undermining the whole "you" in this equation & by definition, you are no longer in control of the photography. Go elsewhere to a.n.other camera system if you, even for a minute, think along those Auto lines. Learn to use the M camera correctly perhaps? Go back & tell Leica that no one wants Auto ISO or Auto focus or a for that matter a P mode on the M system, for goodness sake. The rot starts with an A. Maybe if we are really, uh, "lucky," one day the Leica M flagship camera will resemble the bastard love child resulting from the ill advised copulation of a Nikon D800E and a Fuji X100S... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted March 26, 2014 Share #229 Posted March 26, 2014 will resemble the bastard love child resulting from the ill advised copulation of a Nikon D800E and a Fuji X100S... ...Cannot be unseen... s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted March 26, 2014 Share #230 Posted March 26, 2014 The M240 has auto iso already. It is not to everyone's liking as usual but it is perfect for some people like me and i don't find surprising that Leica are not in a hurry to fix what is not broken if you ask me. Yes, I know. I don't like how they've implemented it in the M. Honestly, not that big of a deal to me, but I will probably not use it the way they have implemented it. I just can't help but comment when someone posts things like "why even have a Leica if you can't set the ISO'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted March 26, 2014 Share #231 Posted March 26, 2014 There's a LOT to fix in the next firmware update, not just the crippled auto-ISO function. So everybody is desperately waiting for it ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted March 28, 2014 Share #232 Posted March 28, 2014 I have read thru this thread and I am AMAZED that the posters who do not want or use Auto ISO in Manual Mode simply and clearly do not understand the function of Auto ISO in Manual Mode. They are absolutely clueless as to the benefits under certain and specific lighting and motion conditions. For those of you who are affronted by this feature on an M camera, I really suggest that you study up on this mode. The m9 and m9p had this feature and I used it occasionally, when needed, with great success. For the folks who want the update to their M240, you can send your request to : technicalinfo <at> leicacamerausa.com . Clearly it was an oversight by Leica and I do not want to wait for the next version of this camera to have it, nor the expense of selling and buying up AGAIN. I sold my m9p, but there are times when I need a specific shutter speed and/or when I am in a setting where the light is constantly and rapidly changing I wish I had the m9 again. No, I am not going to buy an m9 again. I have a Pentax that has "TAV" mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted March 28, 2014 Share #233 Posted March 28, 2014 The m9 and m9p had this feature and I used it occasionally, when needed, with great success. Same here. Used it with my M8.2 and now with my M9 and Monochrom. Also with every DSLR I've owned since 2007. The Auto ISO implementation in the M240 is why I don't own one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundraline Posted March 28, 2014 Share #234 Posted March 28, 2014 I hope Leica gets its act together on the auto ISO issue with a firmware update soon. Today I sent an e-mail to Mark Brady at Leica, and asked why all the delay in updating M240 firmware to provide such a basic feature. If I hear anything back from him (which some warn may never happen), I'll report back. Otherwise I will start working my way up the chain of command at Leica, to Germany if necessary. There really is no excuse for the way Leica has handled this issue to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted March 28, 2014 Share #235 Posted March 28, 2014 I hope Leica gets its act together on the auto ISO issue with a firmware update soon. Today I sent an e-mail to Mark Brady at Leica, and asked why all the delay in updating M240 firmware to provide such a basic feature. If I hear anything back from him (which some warn may never happen), I'll report back. Otherwise I will start working my way up the chain of command at Leica, to Germany if necessary. There really is no excuse for the way Leica has handled this issue to date. Good luck (and I mean that both sincerely and facetiously)... Many have used the the same approach - unsuccessfully - regarding an M9 firmware update and it has not been forthcoming in, literally, years. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 28, 2014 Share #236 Posted March 28, 2014 I have read thru this thread and I am AMAZED that the posters who do not want or use Auto ISO in Manual Mode simply and clearly do not understand the function of Auto ISO in Manual Mode. They are absolutely clueless as to the benefits under certain and specific lighting and motion conditions. For those of you who are affronted by this feature on an M camera, I really suggest that you study up on this mode. The m9 and m9p had this feature and I used it occasionally, when needed, with great success. For the folks who want the update to their M240, you can send your request to : technicalinfo <at> leicacamerausa.com . Clearly it was an oversight by Leica and I do not want to wait for the next version of this camera to have it, nor the expense of selling and buying up AGAIN. I sold my m9p, but there are times when I need a specific shutter speed and/or when I am in a setting where the light is constantly and rapidly changing I wish I had the m9 again. No, I am not going to buy an m9 again. I have a Pentax that has "TAV" mode. And I am amazed that it is so difficult to understand that there are users that want a choice between both options. Both have their use. I would use both. What is so hard about that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundraline Posted March 28, 2014 Share #237 Posted March 28, 2014 I wrote Leica an e-mail about this issue today, and received a reply rather quickly. Reading between the lines, it sounds like no M240 firmware update that solves the auto ISO problem will be provided to M240 owners any time soon. Here's the last part of the e-mail I received from Leica: "My understanding is that the product developers have heard the message loud and clear so my belief is that making a change may have been more complex than we know." Not sure what this means. Could it mean: (a) no firmware fix may be able to solve the auto ISO problem in the M240, or ( technical problems with the M240's processor and other hardware may render a firmware solution to the auto ISO problem very difficult (and therefore too costly to implement)? I can understand why Leica would not want to tell M240 users about either result, or whatever other bad news they might have, and would therefore prefer just to leave us hanging. Whatever is going on, M240s have been, and for the foreseeable future apparently will be, incapable of functioning in an operational mode that is available on just about every other modern camera known to man, including the Leica M9. The reason why auto ISO operating mode is available on so many cameras is because it is so useful and desirable. What a shame Leica made such a stupid technical blunder with the M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted March 28, 2014 Share #238 Posted March 28, 2014 I wrote Leica an e-mail about this issue today, and received a reply rather quickly. Reading between the lines, i... Reading between the lines of a statement that is clearly speculation without any real information is just bound to create unwarranted rumors. FWIW here is a reply I got from Leica a couple of weeks ago: "As the Leica distributor for the U.S. it is our understanding as well that new firmware is forthcoming that will address this function. Unfortunately we are not advised in advance by the Leica headquarters in Germany of what day that is expected to take place." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted March 28, 2014 Share #239 Posted March 28, 2014 BTW: This whole discussion about what the correct behavior for Auto ISO should be would be moot if Leica just added a mechanical dial for the ISO (similar to the shutter dial). I don't think anybody would expect the camera to switch to some random ISO value when the dial is set to the A position -- but then again, other people's expectations never cease to amaze me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted March 29, 2014 Share #240 Posted March 29, 2014 BTW: This whole discussion about what the correct behavior for Auto ISO should be would be moot if Leica just added a mechanical dial for the ISO (similar to the shutter dial). I don't think anybody would expect the camera to switch to some random ISO value when the dial is set to the A position -- but then again, other people's expectations never cease to amaze me The "A" mode is not in question here. It is the MANUAL mode where Auto ISO works best,i.e. a specific/fixed shutter speed is needed in a condition when light is changing rapidly. Also when motion is changing rapidly. An ISO dial as you suggest would not work efficiently. It is not such a random movement in ISO as suggested. There is an ISO limiter on the m9 so that ISO cannot rise above a certain value. Nonetheless, if I had known about this missing and important function beforehand I would never have bought the 240. Yes the 240 has much less noise and can shoot at ISO 5000 easily. Still not worth giving up Auto ISO. And yes, all my other cameras have Auto ISO as did the m9. Who knows, I might sell. What a blunder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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