bill Posted July 29, 2013 Share #81 Posted July 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...As a side note, my Ricoh GR does not include roman numerals in the name as the earlier models did. My earlier point exactly. It's catching I think - and I do not mean this in a pejorative sense, but as an observation - that those who "live in the now" will be more comfortable with the bare capital. Those who have been on a journey with Leica over years and who have had - or still have - other models have more of an ingrained need to differentiate. Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Hi bill, Take a look here Lets drop the M "240" altogether!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
KanzaKruzer Posted July 29, 2013 Share #82 Posted July 29, 2013 Well, I did debadge my truck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 29, 2013 Share #83 Posted July 29, 2013 My earlier point exactly. It's catching I think - and I do not mean this in a pejorative sense, but as an observation - that those who "live in the now" will be more comfortable with the bare capital. Those who have been on a journey with Leica over years and who have had - or still have - other models have more of an ingrained need to differentiate. Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy I know what you mean Bill, but I wonder how widespread this is. It doesn't apply in my case as I've been using various Ms for decades now and I'm still enjoying "the journey" without feeling any need to add digits to the M, but I can see that it may work for others who perhaps feel a little trepidatious about relying on their linguistic skills alone. But then, I also react slightly against those who feel the need to tell us that the camera they used for the photo in question was an M9P for example, where the "P" is entirely redundant for any purposes to do with photographic understanding. So in that puritanical context, I welcome the naked M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted July 29, 2013 Share #84 Posted July 29, 2013 Two thoughts; - Hold an M3 in your left hand and an M240 in your right. No thanks, Frankly I prefer using my Leica R's. Personally I would love to see Leica drop the M system altogether and bring back that Wonderful R system. Yes I know I am only dreaming. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted July 30, 2013 Share #85 Posted July 30, 2013 When mine arrives I shall call it Steve. It'll be between me and the camera though so don't get concerned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted July 30, 2013 Share #86 Posted July 30, 2013 Somehow - not being disrespectful, I never really cared about the name.. M .. M24 ... M240 ... All the same to me. I call it "my camera".. Lol. But everyone is different, and I dont persuade you to feel the same about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 30, 2013 Share #87 Posted July 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My camera has problems. Which camera? Mine dude! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted July 31, 2013 Share #88 Posted July 31, 2013 M is more convenient than M10 ...... less paint to scrap off. ______________________ Cheers, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucisPictor Posted July 31, 2013 Share #89 Posted July 31, 2013 Calling it "M240" was a predictable reaction. I'm not sure if that was a clever move by Leica, really. I don't like it when it's called "240" and thus I call it "new M" or "latest M". The more users avoid the "240" the more will follow, but I don't see it change on a large scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wk Posted August 4, 2013 Share #90 Posted August 4, 2013 IMO it definitely should have been M10. I mean, it is the M10, give me a friggin break here. Why deviate from the cool M # series history? (M5 included) MM? Oh, don't u mean M9-m? Oh yeah and you have heard of Leica M, huh? Well then meet the Mini M! M mini is dumb. It should have been V1. If not x3. IMO. This is all just trivial detail. I do not want to come across like I am unthankful for all that is Leica M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 4, 2013 Share #91 Posted August 4, 2013 I just call it the Leica M.. After all, that is what it is called and there is no other camera in the M series with that name. Sometimes I may add 240 or typ 240 for clarity, but less and less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 4, 2013 Share #92 Posted August 4, 2013 I would have hated the "M10" engraved in the front of the camera. A plain "M" is far more elegant. It makes sense: the specific details of the model should be confined to the documentation, the hotshoe or the forum discussions, not the front of the camera. Leica will develop the M system in the coming months and years, with different models (diversification in the M ecosystem), not just a new generation model of the classic M branch, and it is absurd to follow the 8, 9, 10, 11 convention anymore. There will be flavors of M cameras in the near future, coexisting in the catalogue (M camera with rangefinder, M camera with electronic viewfinder, M camera with AF, M camera for video applications... who knows... M10, ME1, MV1, Maf1 engraved in the front of the cameras?). The M system will be just that: a system of cameras and accessories built from a mount and lens to flange distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted August 4, 2013 Share #93 Posted August 4, 2013 ... will be flavors of M cameras in the near future, coexisting in the catalogue (M camera with rangefinder, M camera with electronic viewfinder, M camera with AF, M camera for video applications... who knows... M with TTL M which is Mechanically Perfect M with Digital M with full frame digital M with full frame monochrom sensor Yes, how ever would we cope with these new flavours under the old convention? (Light hearted intention) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted August 4, 2013 Share #94 Posted August 4, 2013 What they are called is a technical detail. Something that can change over time. Not always for clarity. But what is engraved on the front is what bothers some of us. If I am not mistaken this practice of frontal showoff started with the M5 and is only occasionally abandoned in more pricey special editions. My preference would be to have neither brand nor model id on the front. And that is why I blackened the letter M on front of my black typ 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted August 4, 2013 Share #95 Posted August 4, 2013 I refuse to call it the M240. Sounds like a chinese dishwasher.I think the M (minus the number) naming convention suitsthe camera, the brand and ethos in the short term but long term it's not effective as people need to differentiate when discussing new models and now we do so with a longer geekier number. No thanks. I feel like a bit of a tool saying type 240. As if it wasn't geeky enough. So then what? Next they'll be naming them like Apple editions? M Snow Leopard? Hopefully not after photographers names. M Bresson. Ugh. How about different kinds of Bratwurst? M Thüringer. Hmmm....240 it is then I suppose. But I refuse to say it and people will have to guess the model I'm talking about. Poor choice of words. regards, ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 4, 2013 Share #96 Posted August 4, 2013 ...If I am not mistaken this practice of frontal showoff started with the M5 and is only occasionally abandoned in more pricey special editions. My preference would be to have neither brand nor model id on the front. And that is why I blackened the letter M on front of my black typ 240. Got it with the M4-2 and the first thing i did was to remove it as well. First time i got the red dot also but it was easy to remove then. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/209677-lets-drop-the-m-240-altogether/?do=findComment&comment=2390073'>More sharing options...
Paul J Posted August 4, 2013 Share #97 Posted August 4, 2013 Poor choice of words. regards, ron Enlighten me, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronazle Posted August 4, 2013 Share #98 Posted August 4, 2013 Unless you wish to convincingly elaborate, "Chinese dishwasher" seems somewhat disdainful of things Chinese. I'm reasonably sure you would not use a negative allusion involving more vocal minorities. regards, ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterpronk Posted August 4, 2013 Share #99 Posted August 4, 2013 In 10 years when you have a little problem with your M, that you remember was once discussed on these forums, and you want to find that thread again, you will be grateful that people found a common way to name the M. This post however won't be so easy to find about your M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted August 4, 2013 Share #100 Posted August 4, 2013 Unless you wish to convincingly elaborate, "Chinese dishwasher" seems somewhat disdainful of things Chinese. I'm reasonably sure you would not use a negative allusion involving more vocal minorities. regards, ron Oh for goodness sake. Ron, I think you're reading more into Paul's post than was there. "Chinese" is an adjective, "dishwasher" is a noun, put them together and you have an object and its descriptor, nothing more. As far as I'm concerned Paul's allusion to a Chinese dishwasher is no more than a comment that Chinese goods sometimes have model names containing letters and numbers. If Paul had intended to portray the Chinese as producing low quality goods to denigrate the race as a slur then there are other nationalities that he would have chosen instead that are synonymous with 'economy-quality' goods. I hope we can all get past this having to tip-toe around the current politically correct madness. (For clarity: not aimed at you, Ron, but the perpetrators of this pc nonsense.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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