Paul J Posted August 4, 2013 Share #101 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Unless you wish to convincingly elaborate, "Chinese dishwasher" seems somewhat disdainful of things Chinese. I'm reasonably sure you would not use a negative allusion involving more vocal minorities. regards, ron LOL. This place is getting out of control. I have a bunch of Chinese things on my desk. All functional. All well made. All named with a string of numbers including a calculator called a G1x-290. But knock yourself out, read into what ever the hell you like. I must say, I am fast tiring of this place. It's exhausting. Edited August 4, 2013 by Paul J 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Hi Paul J, Take a look here Lets drop the M "240" altogether!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ronazle Posted August 4, 2013 Share #102 Posted August 4, 2013 LOL. This place is getting out of control. I have a bunch of Chinese things on my desk. All functional. All well made. All named with a string of numbers including a calculator called a G1x-290. But knock yourself out, read into what ever the hell you like. I must say, I am fast tiring of this place. It's exhausting. Thanks for the clarity. regards, ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted August 4, 2013 Share #103 Posted August 4, 2013 Got it with the M4-2 and the first thing i did was to remove it as well. First time i got the red dot also but it was easy to remove then. Yes, the M4-2 of 1976 followed the frontal bragging established with the M5 in 1971. Ugh, noisy common practice. FWIIW, I still think the M5 had fabulous features - some of which I would love to see in today's M-s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 4, 2013 Share #104 Posted August 4, 2013 As the M3 had that designation for its 3 windows, rather than being the third in a line (and the MD had no rangefinder), don't you think we're all be a bit precious about all this? I think we need to be reminded of the M-camera progression: M3 1954-1968 MP 1956-1959(?) M2 1957-1968 M1 1959-1964 MD/a/2/post 1964-1986 M4 1967-1975 M5 1971-1975 (the first M camera with designation on the front) M4-2 1977-1980 M4-P 1980-1986 M6 1984-1999 M6TTL 1998-2003 M6TTL HM 2000 M6TTL Die letzten 999 2003 M7 2002-current MP 2003-current M8 2006-2008 M8.2 2008-2009 M9 2009-2012 M9-P 2011-2012 Monochrom 2012-current M-E 2012-current M 2012-current X Vario 2013-current apparently I don't really see that much logic to calling the new camera M10, and quite a lot for ditching the numerical designation and just going with 'M'. If people want to distinguish between M cameras, use the internal model number (240). Cheers John 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted August 5, 2013 Share #105 Posted August 5, 2013 Oh for goodness sake. Ron, I think you're reading more into Paul's post than was there. "Chinese" is an adjective, "dishwasher" is a noun, put them together and you have an object and its descriptor, nothing more. As far as I'm concerned Paul's allusion to a Chinese dishwasher is no more than a comment that Chinese goods sometimes have model names containing letters and numbers. Pete. Too funny. I just went and had a look and our "Chinese Dishwasher" is an LG (Korean) with the model name "Tronn" (Norwegian?). We had a Haier (Chinese brand with a German sounding name) but it broke after one month!!! I agree we don't need to be overly PC, as long as things don't get out of hand. As for the M well I'm afraid I'm guilty of falling into the M240 trap. I suppose it's just my shorthand after seeing "Leica M (Typ 240)" in the EXIF data every day. There is no way I'm typing that every time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 5, 2013 Share #106 Posted August 5, 2013 ... If people want to distinguish between M cameras, use the internal model number (240)... So M240, i agree. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernd_muc Posted August 5, 2013 Share #107 Posted August 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) How about "Leica M (2012)"? When the next one comes out, we can call it "Leica M (2014)". As Apple has been mentioned, they call their things, e.g. "MacBook Air (Mid 2011)" on their support site. Bernd Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted August 5, 2013 Share #108 Posted August 5, 2013 This is the official forum for Leicas. Leica wanted for whatever the reason to call it's new camera M. Not M10 or M240 or M3 or M24545869879345987. we can pay them at least some respect and follow this naming, which is btw official and it won't change. So far it works: there is no other camera that's named only with an M. In the future we will see what they will do with that. Calling the only camera in their line which has already a name and is clearly differentiated by any other model in the line, a different name to ... differentiate the different is well a bit silly. I don't know about the rest of you but I can tell the difference between M, MM X or whatever. And I don't need the (240). I never did need it and I also never used it since day one of it's launch. This whole story reminds me of the Higgs Bosson, that one by -definition stupid- Journalist call it the god particle, and so every other Journalist found it so cute as to adopt it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted August 5, 2013 Share #109 Posted August 5, 2013 This is the official forum for Leicas.Leica wanted for whatever the reason to call it's new camera M. Not M10 or M240 or M3 or M24545869879345987. we can pay them at least some respect and follow this naming, which is btw official and it won't change. I would tend to agree if not for the fact that Leica have embedded "Leica M (Typ 240)" in the EXIF data and not simply "Leica M" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 5, 2013 Share #110 Posted August 5, 2013 We can grumble all we want, in the end it are the parents that name the child. Leica M it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted August 5, 2013 Share #111 Posted August 5, 2013 I would tend to agree if not for the fact that Leica have embedded "Leica M (Typ 240)" in the EXIF data and not simply "Leica M" But none is calling it my... M (typ240). Instead they just say M240 which is something that doesn't exist. like saying get me a Coca Cola (typPepsi) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 5, 2013 Share #112 Posted August 5, 2013 Usual name vs registered name. Guess the winner. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LashellArent Posted August 5, 2013 Share #113 Posted August 5, 2013 M 240 IS THE BEST ONE AMONG ALL THESE GROUP RANGES HERE . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted August 5, 2013 Share #114 Posted August 5, 2013 M 240 IS THE BEST ONE AMONG ALL THESE GROUP RANGES HERE . PARDON??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted August 5, 2013 Share #115 Posted August 5, 2013 We can grumble all we want, in the end it are the parents that name the child. Leica M it is. The parents will call it what they want, the public will do likewise. 5D2, or 5DII for example. Not EOS 5D Mark II. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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